On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Jay: I think there were several iterations of the Heron; Rivendell had it > made for a while by Waterford, and then sold the rights to I-forget-who who > in turn sold them to Todd Kuzma. > > Heron Bicycles was originally a joint venture between Rona Components, Rivendell Bicycle Works, and Waterford Precision Cycles. Full history is well described here: http://www.heronbicycles.com/faq.html
> http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html > > http://www.adventurecycling.org/default/assets/resources/rivendell.pdf > <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.adventurecycling.org%2Fdefault%2Fassets%2Fresources%2Frivendell.pdf&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGbq9JKDCsOaGzD0o2mYg1idkNsUQ> > > I *think* that the second (1999) review considers the original > Rivendell/Waterford model, and the first link (2007) records the Kuzma > models. If not, perhaps others will correct me. > > The Adventure Cycling review is of an original Heron Tour. The heronbicycles.com domain has current content. The original geometry, which likely applies to the 59cm Heron Touring listed here recently, differs in that the head angle was 72 (vs 72.5 currently) and the fork offset was 50mm (vs 42.5 currently). The review says the seat angle is 73, but the spec was 72. At any rate, I think that the Heron, even in Touring form, was more > road-bike-like in geometry (and limitations for dirt) than the Sam. > The Sam geometry, other than the slope of the top tube, is extremely close to the Heron Tour geometry. > Can anyone speak of the tubing? > The Heron frames from the Gen 1 era all used Reynolds 531 OS main tubes. My memory is they are .8/.5./8 but don't know for sure. They got stickers that say tubes and stays, but 531 hasn't be available in stays for a long time, so the stays are actually 525. The Tour has heavier stays than the Road. The most distinctive thing about the Heron will be that it has round fork blades. Let the debate begin about whether that's good or bad. I love the way mine rides and attribute some of the "magic" to the fork. If you are comparing it to a double TT Sam, then the Heron Touring will feel either more lively or softer than the Sam, depending on your POV. The Touring model used cantilever brakes and had plenty of room for tires, but might be a little less roomy than the Sam, especially in the fork crown. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
