I wholeheartedly agree with Patrick, downtube shifting has it's place 
despite all the other options out there now.  I prefer DT shifters when 
using drop bars, despite being 6' and riding largish (62-64cm) frames.  I 
like the much simpler cable routing and find that downtube shifting induces 
somewhat more mindful shifting practices, though is by no means 
inconvenient compared to bar ends.  I hope I'm not in the twilight of my 
riding days!  :)

On Saturday, October 22, 2016 at 8:24:46 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Don't carry this line of thought too far! Steel, hand-built wheels, wool 
> clothing, friction shifting, leather shoes, fixed drivetrains, lugged 
> frames, -- you can go on and on about technology that one could argue is in 
> its twilight.
>
> There are good reasons for downtube shifters that remain relevant even in 
> a world of electric button shifting, just as there are good reasons for 
> lugs, leather, wool, and 32 spoke wheels. The bike industry is rapidly 
> moving away from just about everything that Rivendell sells.
>
> Patrick Moore, for whom dt shifters are Hi Tek -- coming back from a brief 
> climbing ride on the '99 67'/75" fixie, I youngsters on fixed gear bikes 
> heading for the really steep climbs.
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 6:16 PM, masmojo <mas...@sbcglobal.net 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I like the direction Grant's going & I don't think I am wrong in saying 
>> the the bike industry is swiftly moving away from downtube shifters and I 
>> am guessing they are not relevant at all on contemporary bikes. So, then I 
>> am guessing that the majority of people who like the old style are reaching 
>> the Twilight of their riding days,  riding vintage equipment & likely not 
>> looking for new shifters anywaz!
>> If they are as Bill suggested, stock up now! But, honestly power ratchet 
>> shifters are easily had on ebay in a pinch.
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