My Silvers Version 1 (mounted on bar end pods) do loosen, as do so many other shifters I've used including the archetypal Power . Me, I used Blue Loctite and button head allen screws, and put the D ring screws in my bin of small spare parts.
OTOH, my Simplex Retrofictions -- very fine ratchets -- did not loosen once tightened (and they shifted 10 very well, albeit with a lot of lever travel). IIRC, the Power Ratchets, at least the versions I've used, had coarser detentes than the Silvers or the Retrofictions -- isn't that right? I do like the fine tuning of the Silvers (as bar end shifters, I find them very good even off road in bumpy terrain) but I don't recall the PRs being problematical shifting 9 on dirt, either. What I absolutely need is Silver V 1.0s to shift my S3X hubs. Mounted to seat tube of course -- where else, for heaven's sake? (As I told someone, shifting there looks like you are scratching yourself, but it's a good place to mount the shifting bits when you want an easy on-and-off cable routing to the hub.) On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 7:33 AM, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote: > Either the shifter stays put or it does not. If the chain is really off > a bit you can hear it, but a good shifter should still not autoshift easily > , a not as good shifter apparently, will. > > I have not seen the ratchet inside of a Silver shifter to compare with the > ST DT version. As I mentioned earlier, the ST DT version's ratchet is > about 16.5mm in diameter and the ST Power ratchet thumb version is 20mm, > but the teeth are notably bigger, more bite to them*.* I don't get > autoshifts with my ST thumbies and never did with the ST bar end shifters > either. I found even the ST DT shifters did not seem to hold as well as the > bar end and thumbie. Do the bigger teeth and a bigger ratchet mean it hold > better ? Apparently yes. > > I was hoping the new Silver 2 shifters would use the larger ratchet but it > seems like a continuation of the original . I understand why and all that > .... I'd love to see them just like the original though and no, perfection > as no enemy :) And no weird pentawhatever screw on top for goodnees sake !! > > > > > On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 12:13:14 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: >> >> I love my Silver Shifters. >> But an LBS says the ratchet ain't strong enough and they autoshift too >> much. Says the originals they are based on ( I think those are the ones ) >> stay put better. I might try them sometime. >> I do get some autoshifts, but cannot say exactly why, thought I think it >> is mostly operator error. >> >> Anyway. I have two pair of the Silver barends and one dt. Interested in >> trying originals or seeing whatelse gets developed next. Though I can see >> myself maybe thinking about getting another backup set if I get more bike >> money maybe from selling new 700c Compass tires and new 700c LX/A23 >> wheelset here soon. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ************************************************************************** ************** *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the world revolves.) *Carthusian motto *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
