I've ridden them both but I have a Clem, so I'm biased. They are different 
rides. The Joe felt like a road bike to me. Not a bad thing, just something 
that I'm not into anymore. I prefer the cushy fat tire ride and love the 
650b wheels/tires on my Clem. After riding the Joe, I had them pull out a 
set of the chocco bars to see if they would work on my Clem? They just 
looked wrong. Love those chocco bars.

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 11:21:30 AM UTC-8, mike smith wrote:

> Has anyone riden both?  How do they compare & contrast?
>
> I have a 59cm Clem and I'm considering a 58 Joe.  91 PBH.
>

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