The largest Cheviot has a 62.2cm top tube, almost long enough. I'm not 
manly enough to ride a mixte, though. Definitely a moral failing on my 
part. LeMonds are long-ish, but not crazy long like I need. I'm looking for 
some oddball bike for sure. The Rosco Bubbe is looking better and better.



On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 7:16:53 AM UTC-5, Michael Rivers wrote:
>
> I love Alba bars for the more upright position for commuting and scanning 
> my environment when I ride. I had this same problem when I first started to 
> build bikes as I have very long arms and a long torso.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsjBBA4v5
>
> When I set out to build this Homer, I could fit on the 59 or the 61 by 
> PBH. I chose the 61 for a longer top tube, and chose a stem 2 cm longer 
> than usual at 11cm. I think it is still a cm short and will probably switch 
> stems in the future. What I lose, is top tube clearance, which on a bike I 
> use to commute is a problem every time I stop at a traffic light.
>
> Next experiment was this: https://flic.kr/p/uVq6GA
>
> The Cheviut has no top tube so the frame is large and long, and designed 
> for Alba bars. Most importantly, no PBH checks every time I stop...
>
> On the non-riv front, Lemond used to make bikes with exceptionally long 
> top tubes. I have a Lemond Poprad, which was their cross model and has room 
> for larger tires, although the BB is high. I have toyed with changing the 
> bars on that bike too.
>
> Michael
>
> On Thursday, November 24, 2016 at 7:47:19 AM UTC-5, Christopher Cote wrote:
>>
>> No, not cargo cycles. I bought one of the Nitto Bullmoose bars from 
>> Rivendell. It's a really wonderful bar, very comfortable and beautiful. I 
>> put it on my early 90's Bianchi Nyala mountain bike. The problem is that 
>> with the extreme sweep, the reach is quite a bit shorter than before, and 
>> now I feel a little cramped. The Bianchi has a 58cm top tube, and to get a 
>> similar reach to what I had before (and have on my other bikes) I'd need a 
>> frame with a 64cm effective top tube. That's long. Looks like the Rosco 
>> Bubbe would get me that, but man that's an odd bike. The Clem Smith Jr is 
>> close at 61cm. So, I have two questions for the group:
>>
>> 1. All of my road bikes have drop bars, and my mountain bikes have fairly 
>> normal straight-ish bars. I see a lot of pics of road bikes (Homers, Sams, 
>> etc) with swept back or upright bars that reduce the reach considerably. 
>> How do you get on with that? Just adjust to the short reach?
>>
>> 2. What other bikes out there have loooong top tubes? Other than modern 
>> gnar-shredding mountain bikes, of course. I want something with a Riv-ish 
>> design like 72 deg seat tube, low BB, etc.
>>
>>
>>

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