George 

The mountain bike folks call ISO 584 "27.5".  The same way the mountain 
bike folks call ISO 622 "29".  The Atlantis I pictured in the OP had some 
584x57 knobby tires on it.  

Bill

On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 3:12:39 PM UTC-8, George Schick wrote:
>
> Bill - thanks for steering the thread back to the OP.  I have a question 
> about the Atlantis, too:  I'm a little fuzzy on what you mean by "27.5 x 
> 2.2" knobbies".  "27.5"?  Can you put that into ISO terms, please.  Thanks.
>
> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 5:03:38 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> I am happy to try to steer this thread back to my original post.  :-)
>>
>> First, on the Atlantis front:
>>
>> I had a 700c 58cm Atlantis.  I bought the frameset used here on this 
>> group for $1000.  At the time it came available it was too inexpensive to 
>> pass on, and I jumped at it.  I did a really nice build that I was super 
>> proud of, with several unique details.  The only thing I didn't like about 
>> the bike was toe-clip-overlap with fenders or really fat tires.  I have a 
>> paid sabbatical this coming fall, and I'm planning on doing a 2 week tour. 
>>  I have a neighbor whose wife has a 700c Atlantis and who told me "if you 
>> ever want to sell it I'll buy it".  So, when the 650B Atlantis came 
>> available, I sold my 700C Atlantis to my neighbor, at a great price to him 
>> since I only had $1000 into the frameset.  I'm going to set up this 
>> Atlantis as a 650x48 road bike, and it will potentially be the bike I take 
>> on my two week tour.  It will have drop bars and a light build.  
>>
>> On the Appaloosa/Hunqapillar Front:  
>>
>> When I was test riding the 650B Atlantis, Grant said "you better ride the 
>> 650B Hunq.  It's amazing".  I rode it and it is amazing.  I came back from 
>> the ride thinking "how can I get one of these?".  Selling my Appaloosa was 
>> the only way to partially justify it.  My 55cm Appaloosa also had toe clip 
>> overlap with fenders.  So, I sold my Appaloosa frameset and wheelset.  It 
>> will be a knockabout town and trail bike, and it will be my son's S24O 
>> bike, and sometimes mine.  It will have Albatross bars and a basket and fat 
>> knobby tires.  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 2:42:49 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> I have seen you write about the quest for these two bikes, but am hazy 
>>> on the details. Can you let us know why you are getting these two bikes, 
>>> and what you are going to do with them?
>>>
>>> I like the look of both and can't wait to see your color.
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 1:20:14 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Today I visited RBW headquarters to order a frameset.  This year I sold 
>>>> two 700c Rivendells (a 58cm Atlantis and a 55cm Appaloosa) in order to 
>>>> help 
>>>> pay for two 650B Rivendells.  I mocked up both of the 650B candidates to 
>>>> my 
>>>> saddle height (75.5cm) and took the canonical garage door photo of each:  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-svm1qF4DuEc/WEHGmvGQ1HI/AAAAAAAADUg/qchnq4_n4EgeYWJMr35PdogZ7cYFBc7ugCLcB/s1600/IMG_1441.JPG>
>>>>
>>>> 56cm 650B Atlantis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QNJ5-rus48M/WEHGv8xse1I/AAAAAAAADUk/ulM0IO4ZRXUZB7A_kqWJa9HP0rxbZEuhACLcB/s1600/IMG_1440.JPG>
>>>>
>>>> 53cm 650B Hunqapillar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Notably the Atlantis was wearing 27.5 x ~2.2" knobbies, which made it 
>>>> look super butch.  That's the main reason I'm sharing the photo(s) because 
>>>> that 2017 Fat-Lantis is a bit of a novelty.  The 53cm Hunqapillar is a 
>>>> little bit of a downsize for me, but I think that would be my son's go-to 
>>>> bike when we do S24Os together, and he's an inch or two shorter than me 
>>>> and 
>>>> not likely to get to 5'-10".  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, I went ahead and ordered the Atlantis, which is exciting.  I went 
>>>> with a small upcharge to order a non-standard but Waterford stock color.  
>>>> I 
>>>> will keep it a secret, but I promise it is not a unique Atlantis color. 
>>>>  One of you has an Atlantis that I am blatantly copying, because it looks 
>>>> so darn good.  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was expecting a not-too-long turnaround, but Will explained to me 
>>>> that everybody from Waterford takes massive time off for deer-hunting 
>>>> season!  That cracked me up.  Anyway, now is just about the worst time for 
>>>> frame turnaround from those good Wisconsinites.  No harm done to me, as 
>>>> I've got plenty of other bikes to tide me over, but be warned if you are 
>>>> going to order something, that you will be well into Spring before you get 
>>>> it.  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>
>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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