Bill,
Did the folks at RivHQ give you a hard time for ordering bikes that are 
"too small" by their standards. There is a lot more than a Fistful of 
seatpost showing there. 

-Dave

On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 2:20:14 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Today I visited RBW headquarters to order a frameset.  This year I sold 
> two 700c Rivendells (a 58cm Atlantis and a 55cm Appaloosa) in order to help 
> pay for two 650B Rivendells.  I mocked up both of the 650B candidates to my 
> saddle height (75.5cm) and took the canonical garage door photo of each:  
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-svm1qF4DuEc/WEHGmvGQ1HI/AAAAAAAADUg/qchnq4_n4EgeYWJMr35PdogZ7cYFBc7ugCLcB/s1600/IMG_1441.JPG>
>
> 56cm 650B Atlantis
>
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QNJ5-rus48M/WEHGv8xse1I/AAAAAAAADUk/ulM0IO4ZRXUZB7A_kqWJa9HP0rxbZEuhACLcB/s1600/IMG_1440.JPG>
>
> 53cm 650B Hunqapillar
>
>
> Notably the Atlantis was wearing 27.5 x ~2.2" knobbies, which made it look 
> super butch.  That's the main reason I'm sharing the photo(s) because that 
> 2017 Fat-Lantis is a bit of a novelty.  The 53cm Hunqapillar is a little 
> bit of a downsize for me, but I think that would be my son's go-to bike 
> when we do S24Os together, and he's an inch or two shorter than me and not 
> likely to get to 5'-10".  
>
>
> So, I went ahead and ordered the Atlantis, which is exciting.  I went with 
> a small upcharge to order a non-standard but Waterford stock color.  I will 
> keep it a secret, but I promise it is not a unique Atlantis color.  One of 
> you has an Atlantis that I am blatantly copying, because it looks so darn 
> good.  
>
>
> I was expecting a not-too-long turnaround, but Will explained to me that 
> everybody from Waterford takes massive time off for deer-hunting season! 
>  That cracked me up.  Anyway, now is just about the worst time for frame 
> turnaround from those good Wisconsinites.  No harm done to me, as I've got 
> plenty of other bikes to tide me over, but be warned if you are going to 
> order something, that you will be well into Spring before you get it.  
>
>
> Bill Lindsay
>
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
>

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