Thanks Jeff! 

Appreciate the update.

Eric

On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 10:44:31 AM UTC-5, Jeff wrote:
>
> Follow-up ride report for Eric and others, regarding the Snoqualmie Pass 
> tires in their transition from 19mm Open Pro rims to 24mm A319 rims whereby 
> the tires now measure ~41.5 vs. the ~39.5....
>
> Disclaimer: I'm not generally good about regular tire inflation: I start a 
> few PSI higher than I prefer then ride until it's a few PSI too low and 
> inflate - this is a fairly wide range with Compass tires in the widths I 
> tend to ride. I've now ridden the Snoqualmie Pass on both rims with the 
> same inflation approach...
>
> 1. At the higher end of inflation, 65+ PSI, aggressive cornering felt 
> better with the narrower Open Pro rims
> 2. At the lower end of inflation, maybe 25ish PSI, aggressive cornering 
> felt squirmy and dangerous on the Open Pro rims (so don't do that)
>
> Full stop. All other ride characteristics were indistinguishable for me 
> with the two different rim and resultant tire widths. This was in riding on 
> paved trails, smooth unpaved trails, urban rough road environs and 
> rocky/crushed rock/rutted trail riding. Further, the Snoqualmie Pass feel 
> very similar to my true-to-size Barlow Pass tires, such that I expect that 
> unless I procure a bike with more tire clearance, I'll likely revert to 
> Barlow Pass tires for this bike when the time comes to replace them for the 
> additional fender and brake clearance I'd gain.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Jeff Lesperance <jeff.le...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I couldn't say yet as I only have an around the block roll on the wider 
>> rims. I have plans to get some miles in this weekend I I can report back 
>> then.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:24 PM Eric Karnes <epka...@gmail.com 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> hi jeff-
>>>
>>> other than slight width differences, do the snoqualmie pass tires ride 
>>> differently on the two rims? i have a set of open pros and want to run 
>>> fatter tires. wondering if i need to invest in new rims.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-5, Jeff wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a follow-up to my problematic wide tires on narrow rims postulation, 
>>>> I acquired some XT/Mavic A319 wheels for Rosco today, adding ~5mm of rim 
>>>> width over the Open Pros, and did some measuring. I just posted for 
>>>> informational purposes on the iBob list, though I'll share here for the 
>>>> few 
>>>> of you who might not be subscribed there:
>>>>
>>>> Friends - I recently built up a Rivendell Rosco Bubbe v2 with the only 
>>>> 700c wheelset that I had on hand, which featured Mavic Open Pro rims. I 
>>>> knew for sure that these were not an appropriate rim for the Compass 
>>>> Snoqualmie Pass tires that I intended to run, but I assessed that I've 
>>>> done 
>>>> far dumber things than run too-wide tires on too-narrow rims and decided 
>>>> this dumb decision probably wouldn't result in my death...
>>>>
>>>> So, I'm here to report that the 700x44 Snoqualmie Pass tires measure 
>>>> ~39.5mm on the ~19mm external width / ~14mm internal width Open Pro rims 
>>>> and they fit beautifully, errr, with nary much margin for error under the 
>>>> SKS 45mm cream longboard fenders (see previous comment about dumb 
>>>> things)...
>>>>
>>>> I'm also here to report that I visited my LBS today, Silver Cycles in 
>>>> Silver Spring, MD, and they had a Shimano XT/Mavic A319 wheelset that 
>>>> asked 
>>>> to come home with me for Thanksgiving, so I obliged. The A319 measures in 
>>>> at ~24mm external / ~19mm internal width, and the Snoqualmie Pass tires 
>>>> now 
>>>> measure in at ~41.5mm and the 45mm longboard fenders are a bit more of a 
>>>> liability.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, in both cases, for measurement purposes, I inflated the tires to 
>>>> ~60psi, which is a higher pressure than I would typically run these 
>>>> luscious tires.
>>>>
>>>> -Jeff
>>>> Silver Spring, MD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Ray Varella <rayvar...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Back in the 80s, I ran ma-40s that Kieth Bontrager cut a rerolled down 
>>>>> to 26" rim diameter
>>>>> I ran them on my mountain bike for 20 years and never had a problem 
>>>>> with tires coming off or the rims cracking.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have some of the Mavic MA-2s in that size and would not 
>>>>> hesitate to build them up and run RTP tires.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure there are theoretical reasons to avoid the skinny rim/fat 
>>>>> tire combo but in practice it doesn't concern me much.
>>>>>
>>>>> YMMV
>>>>> Ray
>>>>> Vallejo CA
>>>>>
>>>>
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