drew, BB is definitely more stable with a kickstand.  
With my rear stand, I can support a front bag if I use a velcro strap 
around the front wheel and downtube

Patrick, Pletscher also makes rear kickstands 
http://www.thorusa.com/accessories/pletscher.htm

On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 1:57:44 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> ok, im interested. questions-
>
> Is the rear drop out area an inherently more stable place for a kickstand 
> than the bottom bracket area?
> Is there any risk of chain/seatstay damage with those? 
> Does that placement encourage more front floppage?
>
>

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