While we're on the topic, don't some B17's break in easier than others?  Of 
all the various leathers available, which is the best and which is the 
worst?

Thanks,
Alan
NYC

On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 11:20:00 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
>
> Lon Haldeman (ultra cycling legend, who, quite likely, has ridden more 
> miles on leather saddles than possibly any other human), in his blog in 
> 2011, wrote about how to break in a Brooks using the hot water method. He 
> claims to have broken in over 300 Brooks saddles this way for riders on his 
> PACTOUR rides. 
>
> http://pactour.blogspot.com
>
> When I first began using Brooks, in 2011, I a lot of pain and difficulty 
> in getting them broken in. I used this method twice. The first time it 
> worked great and I experienced a lot of relief from the, for me, extreme 
> discomfort of the new saddle. In fact, I wouldn't have continued to ride it 
> had I not done this. Afterward, the saddle "disappeared" beneath me. The 
> second time I was too impatient, and after the initial 10 minute ride while 
> wet, rode the saddle later in the day, before it had fully dried, and 
> ruined it (at least for me), because it was visibly sagging. I was berated 
> in this group by someone when I related my experience. 
>
> I've had 2, maybe 3, new Brooks since then, and didn't use anything but 
> Proofide or Obenaufs, and didn't have the issues I had when I first started 
> riding them. I guess maybe I was used to them enough by then. So, to sum it 
> all up, I think those directions work if followed closely (or perfectly). 
>
> Oh, one other interesting aside, I've had two B17 Standards, and on both, 
> the rivet that is furthest left on the rear of the saddle, rubbed a blister 
> on my butt. I had to use a Dremel to file it down on the outside edge. 
> Weird. The B17 Special, with the hammered copper rivets, does not do this 
> to me (and they look nicer too) so that is my saddle now.
>
>
> Peace,
> Tim "whose butt probably isn't smooth as a baby's butt but at least it 
> doesn't have a blister" Kirch
>
>
>

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