Roberta: Thanks Grant; long ago he told me to do this and like you, I found
it worked.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:40 AM, REC <rchas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Off list I had contacted Patrick about shoulder and neck pain on my non
> Riv bike asking for recommendations on what changes I could make on it.
> Saddle and handlebars are about the same height.  His suggestion once he
> saw picture of the bike setup was to move the saddle back.  I don't know
> the right terminology, but just as the seat is "behind" the peddles on the
> OM-1 pictured above, my seat wasn't.  I changed the saddle to one with
> longer rails and moved it to the most back position.  This removed most of
> my pain and I felt more balanced on the bike.  It's almost perfect.  In
> fact, it is so good, that I'm thinking about getting a Selle Anatomica
> saddle because I heard that because it has longer rails I can move the seat
> back even more.   Thank you Patrick!
>
> Roberta
>
> On Saturday, December 9, 2017 at 1:42:48 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Several people have described this experience on the list. I've found, as
>> have others, that sometimes you relieve, not only your seat, but your
>> shoulders, arms, and hands by moving the saddle back to get more of an
>> angle between hip and pedals, and let your torso muscles hold more of your
>> torso's weight.
>>
>> This happens not only with drops but with bars of all sorts, IME.
>>
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