I was in a similar situation to you a couple months ago. I have a Joe that I love, but I wanted a Rivendell for longer, faster road rides.
I chose to pre-order a Sam mainly because of the sizing issue that you referenced in your other thread. Like you, I have an 89cm PBH. My 58 Appaloosa fits great. I have had too many bikes that feel just a little bit too big or a little bit too small. I was worried about being in between sizes on the Roadini, but with the Sam I fit right in the middle of the recommended PBH range. On top of that, you get more tire clearance, more braze-ons, and more lugs. As Bill mentioned in the last post, the Roadini might end up being a little bit faster, but other than that, the Sam gives you way more options for future builds. Yes, Joe and Sam framesets might appear to overlap, but the builds will set them apart. My Joe is typical commuter with fenders, racks, bags, upright bars (currently Chocomoose, but planning to try the Bosco Bullmoose). When the Hillborne gets here, it will get drop bars, fenders, 38mm Barlow Pass tires, and a saddle bag. Sorry I don't have any actual ride comparisons, but my Sam wont be here until January. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.