I expect you'll love the Sam. I had a Sam (2009) that was, what I considered, too large for me (a 60cm frame). Even though I was just long of leg enough for the 60cm frame, with my 89 PBH, I felt too stretched out on the long top tube. I could have chosen the (then) 56cm frame. Wish I had done that. In retrospect, it would have been perfect. After 7 years on the bike, I took off the parts and got a (new school) 58cm Sam. I absolutely love it, and it's the ride I always wanted from the original but never got. I'm right in the middle of the size range. It's one of the best fitting bikes I've ever ridden. I load Sam to the hilt, and it's great for that. I ride it unladen, and it's great for that, too. It's always carrying racks, front and rear (Tubus Logo Evo and Tara, respectively, and a Nitto mini front, always with a Ocean Air Docena front bag). It's a splendid ride. Once you get a Riv that really, truly fits, it's bliss.
On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 10:09:10 AM UTC-8, Bob Lovejoy wrote: > > Well, decision made here - a 58cm black/cream Sam frame is somewhere, most > likely bobbing on the ocean, making its way to me. The decision really > hinged, not only on the good advice and info from people, but really on the > question of sizing. If my ~89cm PBH fit squarely in the middle of the > recommended sizes/PBH's for the Roadini I might have gone that way. That > said, and it's been said before, a bike that fits well is a wonderful > thing, the most important thing, and I have complete confidence the 58cm > Sam will fit me perfectly, both in size and for the riding I do. I also > have a few more parts laying around for the Sam build versus the Roadini. > > The only problem is I somewhat justified the new frame by thinking I had > the discipline to part out my Cheviot, using the wheels and such for the > Sam, and, somewhat predictably, I don't think I can do it! The Cheviot is > just too nice, too special... So the future-Sam will attract its parts > from a different bike, from the stash, from wherever needed or what appears. > > Anyway, I agree with almost all of the statements and observations stated! > I do think the Roadini is a cool frame and could be built as almost > anything. But, at least around here, using the gravel roads when exploring > is almost a given. The good (paved) bike roads are many times best tied > together with the gravel farm roads so there was that. And I never could > get completely confident with the Roadini sizing for me - and I admit I > could very well be wrong on that. Still, in my particular situation, the > Sam won out and I am excited! > > Best to all and here's to great rides and adventures in the new year, > > Bob Lovejoy > Galesburg, IL > > > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:59:22 AM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >> Don’t get me wrong. I agree that a Roadini with 28mm tires, fenders, >> dynamo lighting, front low rider panniers and a not-huge saddlebag could >> make an awesome stealth S24O or weekend sport touring rig. I have no doubt >> I could pull that off. >> >> The OP is in Galesburg. The bike I used to have stashed in a Galesburg >> garage was a 1992 RB-1. That was a stripped down racing bike and it was >> just dandy. It’s a nice 70-mike out and back to Oquawka, where you can dip >> your front wheel in the Mississippi River. A stripped down race bike is >> all you ‘need’ for that. If I wanted to get onto the gravel farm-roads, I’d >> want a little more floatation, I think. >> >> It depends on what the OP wants. Both the Sam and the Roadini are >> terrific. It’s easy to underestimate the touring capabilities of a Roadini >> and it’s easy to underestimate the pure road bike capability of a Sam. >> >> Bill Lindsay >> El Cerrito Ca >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
