Thanks John... That is good to know about the older 60cm Sam versus the newer (58cm) version. Over the last few months I saw a 60cm Sam for sale and wondered if that was the way to go. I dug up the old geometry charts and decided to just wait, thinking it might be just what you experienced. Though I have broken the rule at least once, it seems more important on the Riv's to take into account whether the frame was designed with drops or upright bars in mind. I think I came to the somewhat vague conclusion the 60cm was tilted more to upright/swept bars and I think your description confirms that.
And I absolutely agree on finding the right fit. I seem to have become more particular (or maybe just cranky and finicky) on fit but it occurred to me while I was browsing different frames and bikes that the Rivendell's fit and feel better to me than any other bike I have ever ridden, and that covers more than a few bikes. And congratulations on finding your bike! It sounds perfect in both fit, function and fun. I always say that when you are near or walk by your bike it should call to you, that you should want to go ride right then! Sounds like your bike is exactly that bike... Bob On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-6, John Bokman wrote: > > I expect you'll love the Sam. I had a Sam (2009) that was, what I > considered, too large for me (a 60cm frame). Even though I was just long of > leg enough for the 60cm frame, with my 89 PBH, I felt too stretched out on > the long top tube. I could have chosen the (then) 56cm frame. Wish I had > done that. In retrospect, it would have been perfect. After 7 years on the > bike, I took off the parts and got a (new school) 58cm Sam. I absolutely > love it, and it's the ride I always wanted from the original but never got. > I'm right in the middle of the size range. It's one of the best fitting > bikes I've ever ridden. I load Sam to the hilt, and it's great for that. I > ride it unladen, and it's great for that, too. It's always carrying racks, > front and rear (Tubus Logo Evo and Tara, respectively, and a Nitto mini > front, always with a Ocean Air Docena front bag). It's a splendid ride. > Once you get a Riv that really, truly fits, it's bliss. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
