I have resisted wading into this morass thus far but can no longer do so. Patrick: If 1. Tolerance for gender identities which don't match your own, 2. Supporting women's rights to choose what happens to their own bodies, & 3. Social programs for those less fortunate than we ...are controversial, I submit that your (possibly religious) world-view is seriously out of whack. When being kind to others, respecting the self-determination of others to decide their own identity, and helping those in need are "controversial" you have strayed so far from Jesus' teaching that I wonder if you can claim to be a christian any longer.
Grant was correct - there is not much controversial in his post - he has opinions (which not all have to agree with) but your retort was so loaded with IN-tolerance for being kind to and respecting others that it offended me deeply. Is this your religious view speaking? If so I urge you to seriously examine your view of the world as it fits into the tenets of your faith. If not, please illuminate me. On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 4:17:44 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > From Grant’s blagh: “Nothing in here is controversial” > > Oxford Dictionary defines “Controversial” as: likely to give rise to > public disagreement > > Grant, there are at least three obvious controversial topics in your > Blagh: 1) gays/LTBGQ/Gender/Marriage/Identity; 2) reproductive > rights/abortion/contraception; 3) government social programs. How is it > possible you do not know that a large portion of the general population > publically disagrees with you on these? > > Grant, I love you bikes. Your gifted craftsmanship with steel, lugs, and > geometry is poetry in motion is part of the grace that allows me to ride a > bike despite constant neurological vertigo from a bludgeoned brain. You > have gone above and beyond in helping me shift my Hunqapillar to my > Hunqabeam. What wondrous gifts for which I am deeply grateful. > > I do not know what the answer is, but the tone of this group has had a > dramatic increase in this type of “uncontrovercial” statements that presume > everyone is on board, when in fact those statements are contrary to the > teaching and faith of most world religions. I have largely let them slide > by, but they are erroding the experience of the group for me, and I may not > be alone. I plead with folks here to recalibrate your “controvercy” sensor > and self-edit, so this group can return to focusing on bikes and riding, > and camping, and bikepacking, and commuting, and the joy of sharing the > journey, even if it is with someone so foolish and ignorat that he allows > his faith to inform his beliefs. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.