On 07/24/2018 06:25 PM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
Stems. Threadless is a lighter system by quite a bit. Two things it lacks is 
adjustability and comfort. My long quill stem and the one inch steerer flex 
quite comfortably. I think it is one of the secrets to the Atlantis’s 
adoration. It is far easier to raise and lower your handlebars too, but that 
matters when? Just once usually. Not really an issue.

Not really true, especially if you keep the bike for a long time. Bodies change, and the three or four inches of bar drop that were fine when you were in your late 40s may be impossible to live with by the time you're 60.  I'm speaking here from personal experience.   And consider the context for a minute: this is the RBW and we're not talking about disposable bikes here.  The bike I rode last, before the current round of endless rain began again, was made 55 years ago.  Rivendells are made as well as Jack Taylors  were, and should last as well.

Even changing your handlebar may end up requiring you to raise the bar a bot -- not a big problem, of course, unless you're maxed out already.  But most of the time the bike already comes with an upsloping stem and the shops cut the steerer to height leaving no extra room for further upward movement.   Oops.


Aesthetically I think quill wins.
I was hoping for a lugged plus frame but fillet sounds pretty cool too, like 
the old high end Ritchey and Fisher frames from back in the day.
I’d like a thread-less stem as this could be my next bike packing bike and 
‘car’ ( I bought a Crust LD stem to build a bike around 😏) and it’s a lighter 
system.

Does the difference in weight between a quill stem and a threadless stem matter with a bike-packing bike?  Bike packing is, after all, load carrying.  You really think you're going to notice a few ounces  weight difference on a bike like this?

Image result for bikepacking

Just how much weight difference do you think we're talking about, anyway?  As much as a Swiss Army knife?   I doubt it.

I’d like discs but am fine with rim brakes. Kind of. They suck in the winter in the ice and snow and snow plow grit eats up rims. Discs are quicker, cheaper and easier to replace. I hope that Paul’s V-brakes clear a 2.8’ tire. Looking at my bike with 2.35’ tires, I’m not sure...
I have more chainring clearance over rocks and drops since I changed my 
transmission over to SRAM XX1 on my Atlantis, so I don’t think the new bike is 
worth me swapping to at this point. Ground clearance was my only real issue 
with the single track capability of the Atlantis.
The new bike isn’t lugged. 😩 Sob..sob...
I could change my mind in a minute if it has cool colors and a stellar name...😉

Clayton
#DirtDanceDesigns


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Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia
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