I'd second all this advice, and suggest that if you start anywhere, the 
wheels will probably pay the largest dividends, not only when you carry the 
bike, but when you ride as well. A good set of thoughtfully chosen and 
handbuilt wheels set up with your main use case in mind, with some light 
and supple tires, will feel like a whole new bike.

Reid in Austin 

On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 8:57:18 PM UTC+1, Ryan M. wrote:
>
> I got a Roadeo to 19 lbs by using Rolf Vigor wheels, Compass Stampede Pass 
> tires, Ultegra 11 speed groupset, and a decently lightweight saddle setup. 
> I still had a threaded fork and a Nitto lugged stem on that build. Never 
> once had a problem with that bike. 
>
> You can lose weight on a bike by not going with a Brooks and instead go 
> with a quality modern saddle using Ti rails. I have a Bontrager saddle that 
> is just stupidly light, but still tough and comfy. 
>
> Ditch the fenders (just get wet if you happen to ride in the rain), racks 
> (use rackless bags), dyno hub lighting systems (bontrager Ion lights are 
> light weight and super bright and last), heavy canvas bags (look for modern 
> bikepacking bags made of x-pac), get a cassette and crank that are unheavy. 
> ;)  It all adds up. Just remember that modern groupsets from Shimano, 
> especially in the Ultegra/Dura Ace range are really quite light and work 
> very well. I got e-tap on my cross bike and the stuff is just amazing and 
> not heavy at all. (yes, I would have no problem sticking electronic 
> groupset on a Rivendell...it wouldn't be my first choice though. 
>
> My Appaloosa is not built like I just described (no fenders or dyno 
> lighting setup, I'm using Cliffhanger rims and Deore hubs, and I have chaco 
> moose bars even), but if I were really looking for weight savings you can 
> find it in the drivetrain components, wheels, and saddle. 
>
> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 1:56:35 PM UTC-5, Kiley Demond wrote:
>
>> Now that my Riv is Gabriel's Riv, and seeing it stripped down to its 
>> original glory, I think about what wasn't perfect and what I would like to 
>> do for my next bike, a time-honored technique for dealing with loss; in 
>> this case, the loss of a bike. 
>>
>> I love steel frames. I can't imagine not having a steel bike, but since I 
>> am 5'10" (the 91 PBH is the real issue), the frame is large, and even 
>> though I am strong, I am still a 60-year old woman. My pimped Cheviot was* 
>> heavy.* Getting it up the three steps to my front porch wasn't easy. 
>> Given that, what could be done to make one of these bikes lighter? I took 
>> Grant's "let's not quibble about weight" philosophy to heart, so when I 
>> added some essential accessories, they were all shiny steel. Like stacking 
>> tolerances, it all added up. I didn't know much about components when I 
>> first got the bike, but I learned from understanding and replacing what I 
>> didn't like (and I did end up with the Bosco aluminum bars because they 
>> were the "right" size). I could *read* about it, but I really needed to 
>> *feel 
>> *about it. (Speaking of which, I always thought that a Build-a-Bike 
>> program would be a great idea. It is a cross between Build-a-Bear and Book 
>> Club; you buy the frame and then learn how to build up a bike, and you can 
>> swap out components until you find the ones that work for you. The first 
>> class is the theoretical parts discussion over a beer or coffee depending 
>> on the time of day, where you pick your frame, and subsequent meetings are 
>> building and testing riding.)
>>
>> *Anyhow*, thoughts on reducing weight on a bike? I figure this needs to 
>> be considered at the component level up (or is that down?), if the frame is 
>> a given. 
>>
>> (My next bike will be another mixte or step-thru, which unless something 
>> changes in the next two years, will be a Cheviot or L-Clem. I also want it 
>> to be e-Bike "compatible". I cannot buy an off-the-rack eBike because no 
>> one makes a mixte or step-thru large enough, and I still want the bike to 
>> be a pleasure to ride!)
>>
>> Kiley
>>
>>
>>

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