On Mar 6, 9:41 am, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote: > On Mar 6, 2010, at 10:22 AM, bfd wrote: > >Grant's pointing out the problems with carbon doesn't strike me as desperate, >it > strikes me as concerned about people's safety.
OK, maybe I wasn't clear, I was only talking about carbon FRAMES; not carbon forks, carbon seatpost, carbon handlebars or any other carbon parts. Maybe I'm not Grant and "connected" or "in" so I don't see or hear that much about carbon failing. Maybe I only see my little group and nobody has ever had a carbon FRAME failed. Yes, its anecdotal and really doesn't prove anything. BUT, then you have Grant making his doom and gloom comments about carbon frame failing and unrepairable is incorrect. For example, on page 1 of his 2010 bike catalog, he states "Carbon is light, for instant mass appeal. It is theoretically strong, but if the reality approached the theory, carbon frames and forks would never break. And yet, failures are common, sudden failures are the norm, and nobody who knows carbon rides old carbon." Really, I'm riding a 13 year old Calfee with a kestrel carbon fork (yes, steel steerer tube) that I bought USED in 1997 that supposedly had 2500 miles on it. It now has over 25K miles on it and interesting, no sudden failure. Craig Calfee has riders on his bikes that are 20 years old with over 100k miles (100,000 MILES) with no problem. Stating that all carbon bike are subject to sudden failures is incorrect. Further in the same catalog on page 16 he compares his roadeo bike to a mcrb (modern carbon road bike) and states "The MCRB should be retired in four years, and may force your retirement sooner." Really? a mcrb should be retired in four years? On what basis? Paranoia? Or just another way to discredit carbon because it outsells his bikes 100 to 1? If he's only referring to a carbon fork, then he ought to say so and be specific. But, generalizing that carbon frames are unrepairable is wrong. Note, besides a Calfee, I also have a STEEL cross bike. I enjoy both bikes and expect them to last at least another 20 years. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.