I guess the direction Riv has taken works for me because Grant and I both seem 
to favor "go for a ride" rides as opposed to "I gotta hit 20/40/60 miles today" 
rides, and we live in the same hilly and mostly dry area. It's certainly fine 
to not be into a particular style of bike - maybe the look and colors don't 
work for you - I just think a current Riv rider would be hard-pressed to 
dislike the ride if they actually rode one. 

Tangent from the current Blahg: That ebike video was weird. "We don't read 
books" ? 😐

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