Thanks for the thoughts.
I had thought of trying the Always pedals. They are significantly smaller than 
my VP Vice, but honestly, I don’t seem to need a super wide platform for my 
foot. I have size 10, not wide feet. More important than size of the pedal, I 
think, is that it match my foot.

> On Nov 24, 2019, at 7:43 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
> <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> And now for something completely different ... at least re the pedal 
> question. My priority is the bearings and comfort underfoot at hight 
> pressure. I'm hard on bearings. Rocks, roots, and stupid wet, muddy, snowy, 
> freezing, sludgy riding will do that. VPs lasted me a matter of months and 
> generally didn't repair well for me. MKS cone and bearing pedals last me a 
> year and can be greased well for another year. But MKS cartridge pedals have 
> lasted beautifully so far, beyond a year and counting, so they are my 
> preference. My experience has been stack height is not a material factor. I 
> personally do not like the feel of the pedal shape of the Grip Kings 
> underfoot (my forefoot is my widest part of my foot, the narrowest part of 
> the pedal, so the GK's have great fore/aft stability, minimal lateral 
> stability for me). MKS All Ways pedals are a delight, as are their touring 
> pedals. If riding in the snow, touring pedals win, as pressure on the pedal 
> increases grip and discards snow, whereas most pedals it compresses the snow 
> into ice and renders them unridable until chipped off ... not fun at temps 
> near zero. Note: I ride fixed gear, no retention, on both All Ways and 
> Touring pedals, and my Gus has some stupid amount of gears and I ride touring 
> pedals for it. They just handle the bashing and crashing and freezing and 
> thawing and muddy mucky wet wonderfully.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick 
> 
> On Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 2:49:00 PM UTC-7, John Bokman wrote:
> Curious if anyone has the newer of the Grip Kings: the "Monarch". I've been 
> riding VP Vice for a few years after weaning myself off Speedplay Frogs, and 
> am rather annoyed at chewing up my shoes from the sharp pins. Also don't feel 
> I need the width of the VPs. Always looking for ways to get Riv some money, I 
> thought I might try these. However, I'm also curious about the MKS Allways  
> pedals....I'd prefer a low stack height, so VPs look to be the winner in that 
> category....
> 
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