Saddle choice and setup is as personal as love, so I offer this FWIW. But
my experience is that tilt is as crucial to comfort as height and sit bones
and fore/aft position, and that a bad position will have to sliding forward
to put excessive weight on shoulders, arms, and hands.

I've tried the following Brooks saddles, at least one of each, with some,
multiple iterations.
B 17
B 17 N
Pro
Flyer
B 67
The situp-and-beg model like the B 67 but without the springs

Also:

Sugino Belt
Ideal of some sort, at least 1 if not 2 of these.

For all of them, I found that tilt was crucial to comfort (and I'm not
using "crucial" in any sly secret way), far more so than with any other of
the many other makes and models I've used.

I found that, on road bikes, the Pro was the most comfortable; the B 17 and
even B 17 N chafed. But while the Pro was comfortable in butt and thighs, I
could never get the tilt right, and this was even after I invested in an
infinitely-adjustable-tile post -- forget name -- that had an easily
rotated tilt separate from the fore/aft adjustment. The Pro was as
comfortable, tilt apart, as the original issue Flites I now use, but I
could never get it adjusted just right to avoid sliding forward and getting
goosed.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:41 AM Andrew Nussbaum <nuss...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm in the process of dialing in the fit on my Toyo Atlantis
> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/P9oWNGpD2yE83hFx6> and am in need of the
> group's advice on saddle positioning. I'm using albatross bars for a more
> upright position--a choice which I've come to love.  But when I sit more
> upright, I'm noticing that I slide "down" on my B17 saddle. I have
> positioned the saddle to be parallel to the ground, with perhaps a slight
> upward tilt.  I'd like my sit bones to be resting on the rear of the
> saddle.  Should I simply give the saddle a more upward tilt?  Any thoughts
> are welcome.
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