Compared to road slicks, Thunder Burts are definitely more "burly", but they don't have the protective belts like Marathon or Big Bens do.
three thoughts about flats: 1. Jan Heine's opinion is that when you use supple tires and run them at a reasonably low pressure, your chance of getting a flat us significantly lower. I have similar practice and tended to have similar luck as he does. Even when I was commuting daily through the debris-strewn streets of San Francisco I rarely had flat on my supple wide 650b tires. 2. Go tubeless as James suggested. If your rims are tubeless compatible, then tubeless improves on both situations. You are a lighter AND more puncture resistant. Tubeless sealant can seal most punctures you encounter on the road. There was a flickr picture of lister David removing goatheads from his tires at home but he didn't flat from them! 3. If your wheels are not tubeless compatible at the moment, you can put tubeless sealant in your inner tubes. At the lowish pressure (35psi) these wide tires run, most punctures will also be sealed by sealant-in-tube. You might experience a drop in pressure when the puncture takes place, but it won't flat. Just pump it up and you are good to go. Franklyn On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 7:53:29 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > Franklyn - I know nothings bout Thunder Burts but I’m tempted to buy them > because that is CHEAP. > > Are they pretty resistant to flats? Flats are not my thing. They scare me > and I don’t know how to change them 😬😜 > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 8, 2020, at 7:31 AM, franklyn <sin...@msn.com <javascript:>> wrote: > > > Some of these lighter but more "expensive" things can be had more cheaply > with some astute shopping. That's part of the reason these online groups > are helpful as we can swap and upgrade to good used parts and sometimes get > good intel on sale of new parts! > > For example, these 650b Schwalbe Thunder Burts tires are now only $29 per > at Universal > <https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=84410&gclid=CjwKCAjw7LX0BRBiEiwA__gNw7pDUXuxBujkDPb-KpsZzHY9MfZagg8_1_sY92mzlcorXUMG5QO6yxoCCn8QAvD_BwE>. > > Were you using 50mm Big Ben? If you can fit Thunder Burts, you will shave 2 > lbs off just by changing out the tires. Not only that, these Burts are > "supple" and great for mixed terrain riding also, and are known to roll > well even on pavement. > > What James is doing with Roberta's bike is exactly how I would go about it > if I were try to shave weight off my own bike. > > Franklyn > > On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:59:15 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! > wrote: >> >> See? I’m glad i asked because there are so many good points here. Let me >> see if I can respond to a few of the points/questions here. >> >> New 55 Chev has 700 c wheels, so I can’t swap. >> >> Roberta - YES, I will only have a rear rack and a Randi Jo bag on my >> bars. This will not be my hauling bike. The noble Clem can do that. (I >> cringe hearing myself say it because that’s pretty big talk. I’m probably >> strapping bags on and bringing treasures with me, who am I kidding.) >> >> Franklyn, I have 2 inch Big Bens on that Clem right now, which, as you >> mentioned, are heavy. >> >> LeRoy, you made a lot of solid points, and I think you’re right, I’m not >> changing the Clem with small, expensive parts swapping, so I’ll leave those >> bars and components alone. The DNA of the Clem is hard to buck. Also, I >> laughed at your fender reference. Leah Peterson is saving weight on her >> Clem - one fender! >> >> Mark - I knew you would say this! Once you have known and loved long >> chainstays, you can’t go back. Well, I can’t. If I had the Betty and only >> the Betty, it’d have been content because I’d not have known the >> difference. But once I had the Clem and I had the choice, I chose the long, >> comfortable Clem every single time. That poor Betz sat parked. I think the >> longer Cheviot is going be be an improvement. Plus, I am partial to the >> name, headbadge and decals and always have been. I knew nothing about bikes >> when I bought my Betty. I got whatever Rivendell put on there. And now I >> know enough to ask for what I want and it’s going to be the first bike I’ve >> ever had say over and I cannot wait. >> >> But I do think the one thing to come out of this is that wheels make a >> difference, which Joe and Franklyn also allude to. I’d be open to buying >> new wheels/tires if it made me a little lighter and thus faster. Plus, I >> know I’m getting dyno on the Cheviot and I have been thinking about it for >> the Clem. It’s $$$ but bikes are my one extravagance. >> >> Surlyprof mentioned difference between aluminum and steel - I wouldn’t >> have known. That is really helpful. >> >> Well, carry on. 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