I bought a Trangia from Riv ages ago. It's the most easy to use,reliable, bomb-proof stove out there - maybe not as fast as others but to my mind the point of touring is to get away from the need for speed in every aspect of the day. Plus, the fuel is cheap, can be gotten in any hardware store, and easy to carry.
On Apr 7, 6:02 pm, Adam <oceanm...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd love to hear about about your experiences with the trangia stoves > Riv sells after months of cooking. > Cheers, > Adam > > On Apr 7, 1:49 pm, Dave Craig <dcr...@prescott.edu> wrote: > > > I'd like to thank Jim for his continued leadership in this group and > > specifically for his well-reasoned response to my concern about my > > post. > > > My goal here is to be helpful and to encourage people of this group > > specifically to get out and tour on their Riv bikes by offering advice > > about doing so. I completely agree with and support the idea that we > > should be discussing Rivendell related topics in order to maintain the > > integrity of this group. Here's what I propose: > > > I've done a sizeable amount of touring on my Atlantis and Bombadil and > > the rest of my touring has all been on lugged steel bikes. I've also > > used many of the products Rivendell sells - tires, stoves, racks, > > fenders, clothing - even pine tar soap! If I could amend my RBW Owners > > Bunch offer to respond in the group on just Riv touring related topics > > or products then perhaps we can continue. I will respond privately and > > off list to any non Riv touring questions via email until the 11th. > > After that, I'm off on another course with my students. > > > Thank you all - especially for the kind words of support. > > > Dave > > > On Apr 7, 8:56 am, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > on 4/6/10 10:36 PM, Dave Craig at dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: > > > > > Moderator Jim: The RBW forum is the only internet forum I care to > > > > participate in. I appreciate the quality of thought and the civil > > > > discourse I find here. If you believe that my offer isn't an > > > > appropriate use of this forum, let me know and I'll retract my offer > > > > without a fuss. > > > > Well, since this bit was directed at me, I guess I need to dust off my > > > epaulettes and respond... ;^) > > > > In the strictest sense, this has a high possibility of being outside the > > > realm of this group. To put it plainly, a touring topic stream not related > > > to Rivendell products isn't within the confines of the definition. > > > > "Dedicated to the discussion of Rivendell Bicycles and products, you don't > > > need to own one - just an interest in RBW designs is enough to join in. > > > Ride > > > reports encouraged, as is a respectful, supportive and polite tone in all > > > posts." > > > > That being said, I do realize that (a) Riv sells bike camping products, > > > (b) > > > many people's enthusiasm for certain Riv models is specifically for the > > > touring capabilities, camping and S24O adaptability, and (c) there are > > > active touring folks on this list. > > > > I have to rely upon you and the others who contribute positively in this > > > forum to be mindful of balancing those two thoughts. > > > > If we're discussing "Touring" in the Capital "T" sense, I'd suggest having > > > the conversation over at the Touring group on phred.org (graciously hosted > > > by alex who also hosts/moderates the iBob list). > > > >http://www.phred.org/mailman/listinfo/touring > > > > One of the things I feel very strongly about, and have mentioned in the > > > various "State of the List" reports, is that the strength and quality of > > > this group discussion has a lot to do with the narrowness and specificity > > > of > > > the topic. > > > >http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/sotlr > > > > This list began as a subset of the iBob list (again, initially hosted on > > > the > > > phred.org servers) specifically because people wanted to talk about > > > Rivendell designs and products without dealing with the waves of sniping > > > comments by naysayers who didn't necessarily care about RBW products. > > > > The gen1 RBW list grew, became a bit fractured, then began to implode > > > because it was becoming a "mini-iBob" list - replicating the conversations > > > on the iBob list, but idoing so in a smaller venue where folks knew one > > > another. The "problem" was that the tone was nicer, and the quality of > > > response was generally reasoned, so people felt more comfortable asking > > > questions of the RBW group. > > > > When some fairly caustic exchanges took place, Rivendell and alex decided > > > to > > > pull the plug. Generally, the discussion topics weren't Rivendell related > > > and the tone had taken a decided turn for the worst. > > > > At that point, a number of us felt that the initial idea was a valid one. > > > After emailing both alex and RBW to make sure it was ok, I fired up this > > > group, which is where we are now. > > > > In one sense, we're a bit victimized by the quality of discussion on this > > > list. I've been involved with online groups and lists and such for a > > > while, > > > and it is a rare thing when positive discussions can be maintained with a > > > high signal to noise ratio. > > > > We're doing that here. A number of members have recognized that as well, > > > which they've been kind enough to share with me privately. > > > > A great number of people on this list have a lot of knowledge in many > > > areas > > > of bicycling - frame design, history, technique, etc. When they respond > > > to > > > questions or share experience within the framework of this group, everyone > > > benefits. That's how this list has grown to its current size and retained > > > its direct and positive feel. > > > > To continue that growth, to retain the positive and focused nature of this > > > list, I think it's important to maintain the Rivendell component of this > > > discussion as topic number one. "Rivendell: Touring" is probably the way > > > I'd > > > see it working. > > > > To the extent that it becomes a discussion of Touring in general, non-RBW > > > products and tips and trends in the general universe of Bicycle Touring, > > > it > > > strikes me as off-topic by definition, and therefore best discussed > > > elsewhere - tour...@phred.org, a new google group, blog or a combination > > > of > > > those things. > > > > If you decide to follow it up that way - i.e. starting a blog or new > > > group - > > > email me directly. I'd be glad to help you think about how to structure > > > that, and I think it could be an asset to many. > > > > I'm sorry to hear about your situation with your parent, and you have my > > > thoughts and best wishes in dealing with that. > > > > - Jim / List Admin > > > > -- > > > Jim Edgar > > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > > > "Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you > > > do > > > it." > > > Mahatma Gandhi > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
