With the Bike Fridays now, they have two folding options: the regular
option has the main hinge rear of the bottom bracket, so the crank is fixed
to the main frame. The forward hinge (I think that's the name) puts the
hinge forward of the bottom bracket, so the whole drivetrain folds as a
unit. This should really reduce the instances where the chain drops off the
front ring while folding (which is almost always on my rear hinged Crusoe),
at the expense of a slightly bigger packed size.

If you're getting Rohloff compatibility, it might default to forward hinge,
but I would want to get this regardless.

What's strange is I don't see where this is on the website, but their site
isn't the best.

You can also choose a removable seat mast assembly, or one that folds
forward. Mine is removable, along with the stem, so it's pretty much a
collection of loose parts when I fold it. I would recommend the folding
seat mast.

They also have a light frame option on the NWT, for riders up to 190
pounds. I think this would end up very similar to my Crusoe, which is
indeed a very lively bike.

Eric


On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 2:52 PM Jay Lonner <jay.lon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well I’ve traded a few emails with a rep from BF and he is in the process
> of generating a quote. Here’s what I told him:
>
> - Dropouts, brazeons, cable guides etc. for disc brakes, linear pull
> brakes, derailleurs, and Rohloff rear hubs. Maximum Frankenbike flexibility
> basically, to allow for experimentation.
>
> - Cliffhanger rims and the fattest tires that can handle fenders. Big
> Apples 406x60 would be ideal. SON28 front hubs and LX or XT rear hubs. 36
> spokes front and rear.
>
> - 110/74 triple cranks, Sugino or Silver, 170mm. 9 speed cassette. Short
> cage rear derailleur if possible, for ground clearance. A range of 15-90
> gear inches.
>
> - Paul Klamper brakes, Paul levers, Silver2 shifters. Jones loop h-bars.
> (I’m still torn on the brakes - I’m biased in favor of rim brakes but he’s
> making a good case for discs, and I guess I am curious to try them out.)
>
> - Chris King headsets, UN72 bottom brackets.
>
> - Rear racks equipped, front decaleur compatible.
>
> - Electric assist for my wife.
>
> So that’s my first stab at a potential build, but I’d welcome feedback
> from the list. Any glaring problems or missed opportunities that I should
> be thinking about? I’ve never ordered a custom bike before - it’s kind of
> fun to consider the possibilities...
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Jun 23, 2020, at 5:51 AM, Mark Roland <absolutegal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> What is this "Just riding for fun" you refer to? Blasphemy. (Just ride;^)
>
> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 7:44:38 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote: If I’m
> doing a very long ride at my destination (like a brevet or PBP), I will
> bring a full-sized bike and pay the fee. If I’m just riding for fun, I
> bring the Brompton.
>
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2020, at 3:25 PM, eddietheflay <eddiet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> or Dahon Allegro:
>>
>>
>> https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/dahon-allegro-breakaway-folding-bike-194833770
>>
>> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 4:41:28 PM UTC-7, Jay Lonner wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm interested in building up travel bikes for my wife and me. Our
>>> intended use is credit card touring in continental Europe and the British
>>> Isles. We also have a developing interest in cruising the Salish Sea, so
>>> I'd like something small enough to store belowdecks out of the corrosive
>>> marine environment, and that would be easy to get ashore via dinghy.
>>>
>>> It seems that there are many ways to proceed, ranging from S&S couplers
>>> to 20" wheel designs like Bike Friday to rinko. All have their proponents
>>> and detractors. My priorities are comfort, ease of assembly/disassembly,
>>> avoidance of proprietary/specialized parts, and the ability to fit racks,
>>> fenders, and lights. I prefer plodding utilitarian considerations to zippy
>>> performance.
>>>
>>> While our daily rides embrace Riv-approved technologies such as rim
>>> brakes and friction shifting, I am open to other options for these proposed
>>> travel bikes. When we're away from home I'm really looking for something
>>> bombproof. Rear derailleurs strike me as a particular vulnerability,
>>> especially on bikes with 20" wheels. At the moment I'm leaning towards
>>> designs that utilize a Rohloff hub.
>>>
>>> Anyway, so many choices, so many tradeoffs - I'm stuck! What would you
>>> do within the design constraints outlined above, if budget weren't really a
>>> consideration? (That's one of the nice things about bikes - even an
>>> extravagant build is super affordable compared to boats.)
>>>
>>> Help me RBW collective, you're my only hope!
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>>
>>>
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