This bike has the same problem that my Dahon Speedhound had: It’s too big when 
folded to count as checked baggage. 

Southwest Airlines (and I think most airlines have similar policies) counts 
anything larger than 62 inches when height, width and length are combined *or* 
more than 50 pounds as “oversize” or “overweight” and therefore subject to 
fees. This particular bike would be 77 inches (folded size 14 x 27 x 36 = 77) 
and would be charged the same as a full-sized non-folding bike in a full-sized 
box. 

The only advantage, I guess, is that the Allegro would be easier to handle 
between airport and ground transport. Other than that, you’re still going to 
pay a lot to take this on an airplane—$150 to $200 per trip. That adds up.

My Brompton, by the way, goes into a hard case that’s 25 x 25 x 12 (total of 62 
inches, just at the limit) and weights 48 pounds with the bike, saddle bag, and 
a floor pump. Southwest just puts it on the plane with no argument and no fee.

If I’m doing a very long ride at my destination (like a brevet or PBP), I will 
bring a full-sized bike and pay the fee. If I’m just riding for fun, I bring 
the Brompton.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

> On Jun 22, 2020, at 3:25 PM, eddietheflay <eddiethef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> or Dahon Allegro:
> 
> https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/dahon-allegro-breakaway-folding-bike-194833770
>  
> <https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/dahon-allegro-breakaway-folding-bike-194833770>
> 
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 4:41:28 PM UTC-7, Jay Lonner wrote:
> I'm interested in building up travel bikes for my wife and me. Our intended 
> use is credit card touring in continental Europe and the British Isles. We 
> also have a developing interest in cruising the Salish Sea, so I'd like 
> something small enough to store belowdecks out of the corrosive marine 
> environment, and that would be easy to get ashore via dinghy.
> 
> It seems that there are many ways to proceed, ranging from S&S couplers to 
> 20" wheel designs like Bike Friday to rinko. All have their proponents and 
> detractors. My priorities are comfort, ease of assembly/disassembly, 
> avoidance of proprietary/specialized parts, and the ability to fit racks, 
> fenders, and lights. I prefer plodding utilitarian considerations to zippy 
> performance. 
> 
> While our daily rides embrace Riv-approved technologies such as rim brakes 
> and friction shifting, I am open to other options for these proposed travel 
> bikes. When we're away from home I'm really looking for something bombproof. 
> Rear derailleurs strike me as a particular vulnerability, especially on bikes 
> with 20" wheels. At the moment I'm leaning towards designs that utilize a 
> Rohloff hub.
> 
> Anyway, so many choices, so many tradeoffs - I'm stuck! What would you do 
> within the design constraints outlined above, if budget weren't really a 
> consideration? (That's one of the nice things about bikes - even an 
> extravagant build is super affordable compared to boats.)
> 
> Help me RBW collective, you're my only hope!
> 
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
> 
> 
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