On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 1:32:26 PM UTC-4 A. Douglas M. wrote:

> I never understood the point of arguing with an officer in these 
> situations. It only serves to prolong the incident? I also find it 
> interesting to see animosity towards people doing their job from what is 
> usually a super friendly group of people. (Cyclists and especially RBW 
> cyclists)


Agree that it's futile to argue w/them, but the animosity stems from a 
general frustration with NYPD selectively enforcing traffic laws, and 
specifically 1) not citing drivers when they kill cyclists or pedestrians 
and 2) targeting cyclists who are violating minor laws in areas where 
cyclists were recently struck through no fault of their own. Especially a 
family of three, including a 4 year old on the back of an Xtracycle, just 
trying to get home on empty streets on a Sunday night. Read plenty more 
below. 

https://www.outsideonline.com/2390493/nypds-crusade-against-cyclists

https://gothamist.com/news/nypd-cracks-down-on-cyclists-not-drivers-where-truck-driver-killed-bike-messenger

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2017/09/12/nypd-ticketing-cyclists-after-a-driver-kills-a-cyclist-is-strategy-not-targeting-victims/


 

>  


> I’ve never been pulled over on my bike in spite of doing many stop sign 
> slow rolls. I have however set up many operations where I had a law 
> enforcement officer on a bike with a radio and a marked car behind them. 
> The officer would ride and report when vehicles passed too closely in 
> violation of state law. Then the vehicle would be stopped and driver 
> educated.  Those quickly got the word out that cyclist safety was being 
> taken seriously along that busy stretch of highway. 
>
> Best,
>
> Aaron
> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 11:16:15 AM UTC-6 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Like Justin, I've receive 2 tickets for rolling through stop signs, in 
>> the middle of suburbia. One was riding to daily class to CSUN in Northridge 
>> CA, second one coming from a geo friends house, different neighborhood but 
>> same town. First time I refused to give the cop physical proof of my 
>> identity because I was so angry that I was being pulled over at a 4-way 
>> stop you can see 100s of yards in all directions. I think I slowed enough 
>> to stop but did not put my foot down. Threatened me with jail, so he 
>> followed me to my house and confirmed by identity with my girlfriend then 
>> wrote the ticket. Last time, like you Joel, I "matched" the identity of 
>> someone who just robbed a bank. I wrote that up on the ibob list, the list 
>> topic was "Do You Have a Name for Your Bike?"  The Schwinn Voyageur was 
>> then called the Bank Robbery Bike after that traffic stop.
>>
>> Mike ticket free Godwin in smokey SLO CA
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 4:43:23 PM UTC-7, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>> I was out today riding one of my usual routes. I had just gotten back on 
>>> the bike (my Bleriot) after stopping to adjust the angle of my Albatross 
>>> bars. I was pedaling and all of a sudden out of my mirror I saw some lights 
>>> flashing and I pulled over. I got off the bike as a very young officer 
>>> walked over to me. I asked him if I had done something wrong, maybe riding 
>>> to fast (yeah I know being a wiseass is not really a good things). He asked 
>>> me if I had just come from a street which was one I was actually heading 
>>> towards.. I told him no and explained where I had ridden. It seems some guy 
>>> asked a lady for directions, there mush have been more to it, he was on a 
>>> bike, and I fit the description I was told. I was wearing  a short sleeve 
>>> gray sweat shirts as it was an unusually chilly day today and a Rivendell 
>>> cycling cap from years ago. Another officer arrived smiling, he was the 
>>> officer in charge. I put up my hands and said it wasn't me and he started 
>>> to laugh.He explained to me they were looking for a guy in a gray members 
>>> only jacket and a baseball cap with dark hair, my hair is silver/white.
>>>
>>> We talked for a few minutes, they apologized and I said no need. I went 
>>> back on my ride and now was on that street wondering if a woman would come 
>>> out of her house chasing me.  
>>>
>>> In a way I had a good laugh but I wonder what this guy did to make this 
>>> woman call the police. This was not my town but 2 towns away in CT while I 
>>> live in MA. So something was up.
>>>
>>> So I wonder if any of you have ever been pulled over on your bike?
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
>>

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