It sounds like it may be worthwhile for you to have a good mechanic inspect 
your setup.  Diagnosis shouldn't take long for a good mechanic.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 10:06:11 AM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:

> Interesting perhaps it's also somthing else in the drivetrain. Like the 
> cassette? I have had the bike for 8 years but this one was seldom used. 
> Let's see if the locktight not only helps with lever slip but with the 
> pedals free spinning for a quarter revolution at random times, as a 
> possible slip symptom. 
>
> Thanks all I'll report back after I test it on some hills.
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 10:25 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sam: FWIW, I used my Silvers, original version, with an old 8-speed-era 
>> XT rd as well as several others; I didin't notice that slippage was worse 
>> with the XT than with the Dura Ace or Microshift or LX reverse pull, but at 
>> any rate, blue Loctite kept the lever firm with all these derailleurs.
>>
>> (And, just in case, blue also fixed any slipping problem with XT, LX, and 
>> Dura Ace front derailleurs.)
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:06 PM Sam Perez <sam.per...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm begining to think the xt rear derailleur has a big part in it. It's 
>>> a thick steel  mt bike frame  I'm sure flex has a minor part bc I tried to 
>>> slowly crank up a hill without leveraging the bars as to not flex the bike, 
>>> and the silver shifter slipped to the next gear. After a few shifts it only 
>>> loosened. I just got home from the hardware store. Gonna apply locktight. 
>>> My silver shifter is the first model so the washer i have is the one that 
>>> they later improved on. I don't know where to get a list of deraliurs with 
>>> strong springs or if there is a list of deraliurs that are not as 
>>> compatible with silver DT shifters. I'll report back after some rides.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 5:32 PM Nikko Mendoza <nikkog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Sam, 
>>>>
>>>> I just got some brand new Silver Shifters (v1) today that I put on with 
>>>> some VO thumbies. I'm having a similar-ish problem and wondering if you're 
>>>> experiencing the same, but more along the lines of the problem J L 
>>>> mentioned (spring return) . 
>>>>
>>>> My problem is that the shifting for the front shifter is suuuuuuper 
>>>> hard to do. Is this similar to your problem? I push the shifter pretty 
>>>> hard 
>>>> and I feel like I'm definitely forcing it. I finally get it to shift, but 
>>>> then I do that a couple more times, and at this point the cable is looser 
>>>> than it was before, getting pulled out of the tensioning screw. Do you 
>>>> think the problem is similar, or is this really just a difference in the 
>>>> spring return of the front derailleur? 
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 4:31 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Note that the levers would loosen and slip even when the plastic 
>>>>> tension washers were whole. Blue Loctite solved the slipping problem but 
>>>>> not the washer breakage (or shifter body breakage) problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 5:30 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I applied blue Loctite to the tension bolts, and this worked. But the 
>>>>>> need to do this, and my experience of breaking 2 right-side Silver 
>>>>>> shifter 
>>>>>> bodies when my bikes fell over, took me back to the old Suntour Bar Cons 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> where I have to use blue Loctite anyway to ensure that the shiny and 
>>>>>> very 
>>>>>> hard to find locknuts don't fall off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:44 AM Sam Perez <sam.per...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi guys, how do you keep your silver shifters form slipping under 
>>>>>>> load, i tighten the retention bolt but when i play with it it slowly 
>>>>>>> loosens with multiple shifts, i do lots of hills and need confidence 
>>>>>>> that i 
>>>>>>> wont ghost shift under load.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
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