Scott, that's exactly why I am thinking about abandonment now...I've 
already spent so much time and effort and normally i'd think "what's a bit 
more" but I've been screwed by that approach in the past (which eventually 
prompted an involuntary career switch).

Patrick/Jason, I agree that taking a break would be beneficial. But like a 
FULL break for a couple months (no looking for parts, no brainstorming, 
nothing). This thing has been bouncing around in my head for the past 5 
months now, so I think a mental break would help clear the decision making 
process as it relates to this bike.

Still no decision though,
Collin

On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 11:03:38 AM UTC-8 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Might be worth reading up on Sunk Cost Fallacy:
>
> https://time.com/5347133/sunk-cost-fallacy-decisions/
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost
>
> Scott
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 1:43:43 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Ok, so short story long:
>>
>> Bought a cool looking steel frame from a local shop that was built as 
>> part of a small-batch of prototypes for a project that never got off the 
>> ground. This was bought when I made the move from the hilly Bay Area to the 
>> flatlands of Sacramento, so I initially started building it as a single 
>> speed levee gravel bike, but clearance and braking (with long reach 
>> calipers) was a bit meh, especially when it got muddy (sticky clays out 
>> here vs. decomposed granular rock in the bay). So rather than be satisfied, 
>> I began the modifications planned, which included:
>>
>>    - (achieved) A different fork with more clearance, fender mounts 
>>    (cause why not?) and canti posts
>>    - (achieved) Crimped stays for more clearance
>>    - (TBD) Adding canti posts to frame, along with more crimping in the 
>>    rear for even more clearance
>>    - (TBD) building single speed dedicated wheel, and the original 
>>    wheels are now sold
>>    - (TBD) brakes, started with R559s, but then switched to mini-motos 
>>    which I have since traded for some paul cantis to be used on the Appaloosa
>>    - (TBD) Cockpit, have stem, bars and seatpost, but no brake levers 
>>    (see above, currently do not have brakes option finalized)
>>    - (Sorta figured out) Drivetrain, got the cranks/rings, pedals, but 
>>    no freewheel yet.
>>
>> The use has since been changed now to also fit more of a commuter that I 
>> am more comfortable with locking up, along with a dedicated rack/basket 
>> combo and generally be a bike that I don't have to worry about as much when 
>> it comes to maintenance, storing inside, etc. but it is trending to be a 
>> more expensive bike than I'd like.
>>
>> The sticking issue in my mind was/is that ultimately, its not that unique 
>> of a bike in terms of features (fenders, cantis, 650x42 clearance, etc.) 
>> and I'm spending a decent amount of time and effort achieving that aspect. 
>> The visuals are unique and it rides nicely, but i'd rather have a unique 
>> feature bike than a unique looking one if I'm spending all this effort on 
>> it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin in Sactown
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 9:46:31 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Agree that knowing the project base would go a long way in understanding 
>>> how good the potential end result would be!  I am generally pretty 
>>> impatient when I get a new project going but bear in mind there are still 
>>> new-in-box Rivs from the mid-2000's popping up every now and again - there 
>>> is no deadline for this build beyond your own expectations.  If it's an 
>>> exciting build or something that would be very useful to you once complete, 
>>> I'd just hang it up and wait until you've got the budget, supply, and 
>>> bandwidth to finish it. Might be three months, might be three years - and 
>>> that's OK.  If you're not feeling that attachment, or need the liquid cash, 
>>> then maybe different story.  
>>
>>

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