Wow! timely question!  i am abandoning a project that stalled for a couple 
years.  I collected parts and then sourced a used frame that just wont 
accommodate the running gear properly.  and changes in my needs/ wants /  
physical abilities  have now  made the bike (even if finished)  not very 
enjoyable... all of which begs the question: do I sell off the stuff or 
stack it all up for some other day... i have a horrible time selling off 
bike parts!!!

On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 2:31:07 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> +1 on not trying to turn a sports car into a pickup truck.
>
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> On Dec 23, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Jay Lonner <jay.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds to me like you’re trying to transform the bike into something it 
> isn’t, and I doubt that a new fork, adding canti posts, crimping the stays, 
> etc. will alter that fundamental fact. I’d ditch it and start over with 
> something that meets your needs without requiring such extensive 
> modification. 
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Dec 23, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Collin A <collinm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Scott, that's exactly why I am thinking about abandonment now...I've 
> already spent so much time and effort and normally i'd think "what's a bit 
> more" but I've been screwed by that approach in the past (which eventually 
> prompted an involuntary career switch).
>
> Patrick/Jason, I agree that taking a break would be beneficial. But like a 
> FULL break for a couple months (no looking for parts, no brainstorming, 
> nothing). This thing has been bouncing around in my head for the past 5 
> months now, so I think a mental break would help clear the decision making 
> process as it relates to this bike.
>
> Still no decision though,
> Collin
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 11:03:38 AM UTC-8 greenteadrinkers 
> wrote:
>
>> Might be worth reading up on Sunk Cost Fallacy:
>>
>> https://time.com/5347133/sunk-cost-fallacy-decisions/
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 1:43:43 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so short story long:
>>>
>>> Bought a cool looking steel frame from a local shop that was built as 
>>> part of a small-batch of prototypes for a project that never got off the 
>>> ground. This was bought when I made the move from the hilly Bay Area to the 
>>> flatlands of Sacramento, so I initially started building it as a single 
>>> speed levee gravel bike, but clearance and braking (with long reach 
>>> calipers) was a bit meh, especially when it got muddy (sticky clays out 
>>> here vs. decomposed granular rock in the bay). So rather than be satisfied, 
>>> I began the modifications planned, which included:
>>>
>>>    - (achieved) A different fork with more clearance, fender mounts 
>>>    (cause why not?) and canti posts
>>>    - (achieved) Crimped stays for more clearance
>>>    - (TBD) Adding canti posts to frame, along with more crimping in the 
>>>    rear for even more clearance
>>>    - (TBD) building single speed dedicated wheel, and the original 
>>>    wheels are now sold
>>>    - (TBD) brakes, started with R559s, but then switched to mini-motos 
>>>    which I have since traded for some paul cantis to be used on the 
>>> Appaloosa
>>>    - (TBD) Cockpit, have stem, bars and seatpost, but no brake levers 
>>>    (see above, currently do not have brakes option finalized)
>>>    - (Sorta figured out) Drivetrain, got the cranks/rings, pedals, but 
>>>    no freewheel yet.
>>>
>>> The use has since been changed now to also fit more of a commuter that I 
>>> am more comfortable with locking up, along with a dedicated rack/basket 
>>> combo and generally be a bike that I don't have to worry about as much when 
>>> it comes to maintenance, storing inside, etc. but it is trending to be a 
>>> more expensive bike than I'd like.
>>>
>>> The sticking issue in my mind was/is that ultimately, its not that 
>>> unique of a bike in terms of features (fenders, cantis, 650x42 clearance, 
>>> etc.) and I'm spending a decent amount of time and effort achieving that 
>>> aspect. The visuals are unique and it rides nicely, but i'd rather have a 
>>> unique feature bike than a unique looking one if I'm spending all this 
>>> effort on it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin in Sactown
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 9:46:31 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agree that knowing the project base would go a long way in 
>>>> understanding how good the potential end result would be!  I am generally 
>>>> pretty impatient when I get a new project going but bear in mind there are 
>>>> still new-in-box Rivs from the mid-2000's popping up every now and again - 
>>>> there is no deadline for this build beyond your own expectations.  If it's 
>>>> an exciting build or something that would be very useful to you once 
>>>> complete, I'd just hang it up and wait until you've got the budget, 
>>>> supply, 
>>>> and bandwidth to finish it. Might be three months, might be three years - 
>>>> and that's OK.  If you're not feeling that attachment, or need the liquid 
>>>> cash, then maybe different story.  
>>>
>>>
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