Having pondered this point on a number of occasions...nothing is
"perfect."

If RBW gave me exactly what I asked for, it wouldn't be
perfect...because I don't know exactly what I need/want.   It is the
same reason I don't design a house and have it built, because there
are people out there who do a better job of that than I do.

I purchased my first Rivendell in 95, the last one a year or two ago;
I have had much better results going with Grants advice than trying to
figure it out on my own.  As one example out of several, in 95 none of
my bikes had fenders...now they all do.  Glad Grant thought of that!

Angus



On Apr 22, 5:24 pm, Joe Bartoe <jbar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Just to note. It sounds like, in this case, that the customer was not getting 
> exactly what he or she asked for. This is a very different circumstance than 
> simple cancellation after the start of the build process. I would want all my 
> money back if I didn't receive what was asked for. If I cancelled, I would 
> think there would be reason for the builder to keep the deposit.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:54:03 -0700
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
> > From: joelmatth...@mac.com
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > Slight topic drift.
>
> > Grant's sanguine attitude toward the cancelled custom has me
> > wondering: how do frame builder's view cancellations as a rule?
>
> > Provided the buyer accepts the downpayment is lost is the builder
> > usually ok with the cancellation?  It is one thing, I imagine if the
> > buyer cancels before the actual build.  Here, the bike was built and
> > painted.  Someone had to pay JB, I am certain.
>
> > The many mysteries of the custome frame world!
>
> > On Apr 22, 2:47 pm, Philip Williamson <philip.william...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Joe Bell could PAINT a gusset under there. I find the whole situation
> > > shocking, and I'd say so, but I'm sure the owner's on the list.
>
> > > Riding fixed in the woods, I find the rear easier to control without
> > > skidding than riding a freewheeling bike. I like having a rear brake,
> > > but I covet that Rivendell.
> > > Dirt Drop bars, fat tires, a 32/37 up front and a 14 and a 19 in back
> > > (on a Phil fixed/fixed, as long as I'm dreaming)... ideal.
>
> > >  Philip
>
> > > On Apr 22, 8:22 am, "Jim M." <mather...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The
> > > > abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope
> > > > someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is
> > > > fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing
> > > > etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills
> > > > than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes.
> > > > No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good
> > > > for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was
> > > > requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece.
>
> > > > jim m
> > > > wc ca
>
> > > > On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, rperks <perks....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230
>
> > > > > Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show?
> > > > > Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on.  Even with
> > > > > the current state of the union something that created that much drool
> > > > > must have value.  No telling if that is the one though.
>
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