It can't hurt to grab the new harder plastic washers Riv sells for these 
but yeah, there's some play in them that never goes away. The washers may 
solve the 'slipping in gear' part though, that's what matters in my 
opinion. 



On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 12:57:05 PM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> I didn't swap the levers from one side to the other. There's no reason not 
> to try it I suppose, just never got round to it. 
>
> In any case, both levers, left and right, seem to have a lot of lateral 
> play in them. Like about a mm or more at the pod where the lever bolts on.
> I have tightened the D rings about as far as possible by hand. There is 
> still a slighly loose fore-aft feeling in the lever before the ratchet 
> clicks when I want to shift,
> but it's not like a friction shifter that's not been tightened enough - 
> nothing is actually slipping.
>
> I have a couple of sets of old suntour bar ends, both the first generation 
> ones and the later barcons with 7 speed indexing on the RD side and 
> ratcheting on the FD side. 
> Neither of those shifters have any play in and I've never had any problems 
> with them slipping. 
>
> Thanks again for any suggestions.
>
> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 17:56, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, it came from a shop, not from Rivendell, but we're assuming that it 
>> is stuff that's supposed to work together.  That's good
>>
>> There is no particular Left vs Right.  Either one can serve either role.  
>>  It's just a matter of whether you want the D-rings on the outside or the 
>> inside.  Since you've swapped things around liberally, can I assume you've 
>> already swapped the shifters?  Did they both do equally badly when used for 
>> the rear der?
>>
>> Next, please describe the "play".  What does this mean?  Do you mean you 
>> can wiggle the shifter side to side?  Do you mean you can wiggle the 
>> shifter in it's normal travel direction and it moves a bit before the cable 
>> starts moving?  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 8:05:44 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I have a complete set. It's the right hand shifter that's causing the 
>>> problem. 9 speed. I have a double chainring on the front with a granny gear 
>>> and a 36t big ring. This is setup to avoid shifting the front derailleur 
>>> too often, so I don't use the left hand shifter enough to say if it's got a 
>>> major problem. I tried a few different derailleurs, mostly variants of 
>>> Shimano Deore, but the slipping/ghost shifting persisted. 
>>>
>>> The setup is a full Rivendell branded barend shifter set. No cobbling 
>>> together. I ordered it as a Dia Compe barend shifter set, and the shop I 
>>> bought it from sent me the Riv set.  
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Johnny
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 16:27, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK one step at a time
>>>>
>>>> 1. Do you have one Silver Bar end shifter or two?  Do both have a 
>>>> problem or only one?
>>>> 2. Did you buy these Silver Bar end shifters complete from Rivendell 
>>>> Bicycle Works as bar end shifters?  Or did you or somebody else cobble 
>>>> together Silver Downtube shifters onto Shimano, or somebody elses bar end 
>>>> pods?
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:29:59 AM UTC-8 john...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello RBWers,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been having problems with a set of older type RBW Silver bar end 
>>>>> shifters. 
>>>>> There seems to be a lot of play in the shifters. They've been like 
>>>>> this out of the box.
>>>>> They also slip a  bit in the middle sprockets, ghost shifting from the 
>>>>> bigger to smaller
>>>>> sprocket. Tightening the bolt that holds the shifter lever doesn't 
>>>>> make much difference,
>>>>> even with the bolt done up pretty tight the play and slipping seem to 
>>>>> persist. 
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems this is a bit of a known problem with these shifters. Does 
>>>>> anyone have any suggestions for a remedy for this? E.g. is it possible to 
>>>>> add an additional washer somewhere?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>
>>>>> Johnny in Belgium
>>>>>
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