Hugh,

I am riding 650B x 42 BSPs on those Pacenti Brevet rims and it's taken me 
some time to get used to the smoothness they can provide without delving 
below the PSI necessary to keep the sidewalls structural enough for quick 
steering changes and high pedal efforts during a turn. I had to learn this 
envelope with the 700 x 32 Stampede Pass on my Rambouillet too. 

I can't imagine how badly a 55mm wide tire's sidewall would luff if I 
unknowingly got below that structure supporting pressure with them. I don't 
have experience with any wider tires on the Brevets, just the memory of 
summer 1988 in southwest Colorado and a new pair of Specialized HardPack 
2.2 (not the neutered HardPack II) tires. They provided me the baseline 
education regarding what is "just enough" PSI and how your intended riding 
dictates that, not your thumb, the pump dial or a couple of leans on the 
handlebar with the front brakes clamped. Ouch. Continental Divide decent 
ouch. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 6:42:45 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hey Andy,
>
> Great minds think alike.
>
> I need to learn more about this Suzue Classica cassette rear. New to me. 
> I'll ask you the same question I've asked others. Do you think the Pacenti 
> Brevet rims would handle a 55mm tire well?
>
> Hugh
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 5:25 AM ascpgh <asc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I like shiny silver as well. My 650B rando bike has a SON front hub and a 
>> Suzue Classica cassette rear with Pacenti Brevet rims and 650B x 42 BSPs.
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 8:32:18 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> So as not to offend any long-term members on this list I did first do a 
>>> search and did not find an answer to my question? I believe back in 2018 
>>> William Henderson in PDX after an accident had a wheel set built with the 
>>> same hubs I'm considering, if he could chime in that would be excellent.
>>>
>>> On with the question,
>>>
>>> Does anybody have experience with the Velo Orange Grand Cru 135mm QR 
>>> Shimano hub? Specifically, has it held up over time? How does it feel? Does 
>>> it spin freely? How does it sound? Meaning is it silent or does it have a 
>>> loud ratcheting noise? What were your initial impressions of the build 
>>> quality and then later impressions.
>>>
>>> It's my aesthetic, I just see my new to me Atlantis built with silver 
>>> shiny hubs otherwise I'd build my new wheels with a DT Swiss 350 rear hub 
>>> and be done. I'm considering a White Industries hub but that's close to 
>>> $200 more over the VO hub. Just debating whether the extra $$ is worth it? 
>>>
>>> I'm going with the Velocity Cliffhangers, wish they came in silver :( 
>>> Planning on running schwabe g ones in 2.25" evolutions for cush and speed. 
>>> If you have a recommendation on rims that will allow for tubeless, decent 
>>> tire profile in silver please lmk. FYI not going with the HED Belgian rims 
>>> at $165 nope! 
>>>
>>> I'm also looking for the Riv stem shifters currently out of stock on the 
>>> Riv Hq site. If anyone has a pair that they're willing to part with let me 
>>> know? 
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Hugh in Sunny SoCal Los Angeles to be exact. 
>>>
>>> Since I'm honorable and might as well ask another question. I plan on 
>>> running aluminum albatross bars any recommendations for grips. My 
>>> preference is a easily removed grip like the Ergon which I have. Is there 
>>> an esi like grip that's removes simply?
>>>
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