Mike,

I misstated,  velocity doesn't say "optimal" anything on the A23. I
extrapolated that from their specs. Meaning 35mm was their recommended max
tire width. They use the term"optimal" with the cliffhanger's specs. Sorry
for the confusion.


Specs

RIMS (CLICK FOR COLOR OPTIONS):
A23 650c <http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/a23-571> : 23mm - 35mm
tires
A23 700c <http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/a23-622> : 23mm - 35mm
tires
A23 OC 700c <http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/a23-oc-622> : 23mm -
35mm tires


I think that's just what they feel comfortable listing perhaps based on
their testing? I ran 42mm on a similar velocity rim. Report back how your
47's do on these rims?


Hugh

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 9:39 AM velomann <velom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "You'll notice the A23's optimal max tire width is 35mm"
>
> I'm not sure why Velocity says that. And what is "optimal max?" It seems
> like Optimal and Max are 2 different things?
> Anyway...
> I use the chart WTB has on their website here:
> https://www.wtb.com/pages/tire-rim-fit-chart
> I've found it to be accurate and extremely useful.
> I will be running Panaracer Gravelking SK's - 650b x 47 - on these rims
> and expect it to be just fine based on experience with rims of similar
> width.
> BTW, Will at Rivendell recommended these rims for similar size tires.
> But I probably would go wider if I was interested in running 55's.
>
> MIke M
>
> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 8:47:47 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> Here are the specs for the Cliffhangers and A23's. You'll notice the
>> A23's optimal max tire width is 35mm
>>
>> https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584
>>
>> And the cliffhanger optimal tire widths are between 45mm and 65mm the
>> schwabe g1's are 2.25 or approximately 56 mm.
>>
>> https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584
>>
>> I imagine your going to run a narrower tire?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021, 8:33 PM velomann <velo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Velocity A-23 rims come in silver, are tubeless compatible, and have a
>>> brake track.
>>> I have a pir I'm going to build up for my Sam as soon as I track down
>>> the right hubs.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 5:32:18 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>>> So as not to offend any long-term members on this list I did first do a
>>>> search and did not find an answer to my question? I believe back in 2018
>>>> William Henderson in PDX after an accident had a wheel set built with the
>>>> same hubs I'm considering, if he could chime in that would be excellent.
>>>>
>>>> On with the question,
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have experience with the Velo Orange Grand Cru 135mm QR
>>>> Shimano hub? Specifically, has it held up over time? How does it feel? Does
>>>> it spin freely? How does it sound? Meaning is it silent or does it have a
>>>> loud ratcheting noise? What were your initial impressions of the build
>>>> quality and then later impressions.
>>>>
>>>> It's my aesthetic, I just see my new to me Atlantis built with silver
>>>> shiny hubs otherwise I'd build my new wheels with a DT Swiss 350 rear hub
>>>> and be done. I'm considering a White Industries hub but that's close to
>>>> $200 more over the VO hub. Just debating whether the extra $$ is worth it?
>>>>
>>>> I'm going with the Velocity Cliffhangers, wish they came in silver :(
>>>> Planning on running schwabe g ones in 2.25" evolutions for cush and speed.
>>>> If you have a recommendation on rims that will allow for tubeless, decent
>>>> tire profile in silver please lmk. FYI not going with the HED Belgian rims
>>>> at $165 nope!
>>>>
>>>> I'm also looking for the Riv stem shifters currently out of stock on
>>>> the Riv Hq site. If anyone has a pair that they're willing to part with let
>>>> me know?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Hugh in Sunny SoCal Los Angeles to be exact.
>>>>
>>>> Since I'm honorable and might as well ask another question. I plan on
>>>> running aluminum albatross bars any recommendations for grips. My
>>>> preference is a easily removed grip like the Ergon which I have. Is there
>>>> an esi like grip that's removes simply?
>>>>
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