One should note that Shimano’s 11-speed *MTB* rear derailleurs require more 
cable pull to shift over 11 speeds than Shimano’s own 11-speed *road* rear 
derailleurs, like your Ultegra 6800. The difference is not trivial and 
exceeds 20%. Thus, one needs to qualify one’s statement about whether 
Silver DT shifters pull enough cable, because they may not for the MTB 
Dyna-Sys rear derailleurs that some favor for the larger gear capacity and 
chain wrap.

On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 2:01:43 PM UTC-8 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I'm sure to most, this is a 'no duh' situation but throwing my hat in for 
> the approval vote regardless. If there are any die-hard 9 speed friction 
> fans out there like me, this might be of interest. 
> Before I thought: 
>
> A) the Silver DT shifters don't pull enough cable to fit 11 speed
> B) I'd be spending the majority of the ride feathering the gears 
>
> Wrong and wrong. It works shockingly well, perhaps even better than 8-9 
> speeds perhaps because there's simply less room to mess it up. Now I 
> probably wouldn't enjoy it as much with shifters that didn't utilize the 
> ratcheting system since I can feel how the ratchet sorta auto-corrects the 
> right engagement point when I'm changing gears but that's a topic of 
> personal taste. 
>
> My setup is an Ultegra 6800 long cage rear mech, 11 speed chain, 11-34 105 
> cassette, and a Grand Cru 50.4 46-30 crankset.  
>
> Obviously the downside of all this is cost but if anyone was building up 
> something new and was 11 speed friction curious, give it a shot! 
>

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