James, your experience with the Losco was similar to my experience with the 
Billie bars. I found the Billie's and an 11CM stem on my Atlantis to be too 
flexy when carrying a load. I ended up going back to albatross bars on a 
slightly shorter stem. A little flex was fine, but it was just too much, 
especially on a heavy bike. I've been tempted to try out the Loscos or 
Toscos on a lighter bike where I don't carry a front load. 

Brett in PDX

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:37:43 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:

> I left him by the creek….
> Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked the 
> upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it has 
> Albatross handle bars.
> I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they were 
> flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 
>
> I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm 
> Nitto FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp 
> diameter is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars will 
> not flex as much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
> I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The reach 
> is slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper body 
> straighter. 
>
> Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions and 
> if you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds.
>
> I will post a photo when the parts get put on.
>
> The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area and 
> there is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday for a 
> month and never see the kind of stuff posted here.
>
> I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the 
> car rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent 
> the next 20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 
>
> Cheers!

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