Isn't that the truth, Joe! I find bottom brackets slightly tedious.
Headsets though often take several rides before I get them just right.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 5:48 PM Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yay for bike shops solving problems! I'll be facing this, too, when my new
> anodized headset spacer shows up for my Susie. Both my bikes came to me
> with perfecty-adjusted-by-Riv headsets and I've left well enough alone.
> I'll have to pull the topnut on the Susie to swap spacers and will then go
> through my ritual of starting too loose and having to readjust three times
> before I get it right. Argh! 🤦
>
> Joe "that's probably right, oh crap it's not right" Bernard
>
> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 3:17:29 PM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY
> wrote:
>
>> Hurrah!! (saw your new message of joy after I sent that last message of
>> not as much joy)
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 6:10:25 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I got it handled! The headset nut (or whatever) needed 1/8th of a turn
>>> and then it all snugged up nicely. Got the brake cable/housing sorted out,
>>> too. The anodizing was unhurt in the process. Relief! I know it’s not
>>> rational but I am extra attached to this bike and I get anxiety when things
>>> are wrong with it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the help, you are the best!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 14, 2021, at 12:17 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Which shop got that brake housing all bunched up on the front (ripples
>>> of plastic piling out of the noodle)? They might be in a rush...
>>>
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 2:54:56 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Clarifying my response about REI, It's in response to concerns about
>>>> the ano finish on her headset. I'm sure REI would be careful, too, I just
>>>> know the other shop knows those bikes well and are meticulous about them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 10:31:33 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Agreed, there's almost certainly nothing to worry about here Leah,
>>>>> simple adjustment. Don't dis REI too much, my local branch has an 
>>>>> excellent
>>>>> bike mechanic who is always thrilled to work on something other than store
>>>>> bike assembly.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 8:24:18 AM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Leah,
>>>>>> If it turns out to be the headset (which is my bet), then like Joe
>>>>>> said, it's a thing that happens sometimes with new builds. I just wanted 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> add that it's unlikely that anything is damaged after a short ride with 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> just a bit loose. Def important to get it fixed ASAP, but I think there's
>>>>>> no need to hyperventilating over whether you damaged your steer tube. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had Riv install the headset/fork on my Bubbe and still had to get
>>>>>> the local shop to tighten it up after the first few rides.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul in AR
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 12:09:19 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Maul the color."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suppose it's always possible but the job had already been done
>>>>>>> once and nothing bad happened so it should be fine. The wrenches they'll
>>>>>>> use are good stuff that fit on the flats of the cups well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What will happen is that bottom cup right on the headtube will be
>>>>>>> turned a bit to snug it down, then he'll hold that one steady while he
>>>>>>> slowly turns the top one to secure the adjustment in place. It's easy to
>>>>>>> get wrong on the first try, I usually end up with mine too loose, too.
>>>>>>> They'll fix it for ya.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 9:55:16 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The stem is moving down by the headset. I put the brakes on and
>>>>>>>> it’s not so noticeable, but if I lift it by the handlebars I can see 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> feel that stem move. The bolts at the stem are tight and max insertion 
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> inside the tube, so that’s not the problem. I don’t know much about
>>>>>>>> headsets, but I bet this is the source.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Next question: do you think REI is going to maul the color of my
>>>>>>>> new ano parts with their wrenches?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:33 PM, Ray Varella <rayvar...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you hold your front brake on and rock the bike back and forth
>>>>>>>> you should be able to see if the headset is loose or the stem is 
>>>>>>>> loose. The
>>>>>>>> stem is tightened with the bolt in the center, you can do that 
>>>>>>>> yourself,
>>>>>>>> just make sure the max height/minimum insertion line is below the 
>>>>>>>> headset.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it’s the headset, you should take it to a shop. REI should be
>>>>>>>> able to handle that just fine.
>>>>>>>> You need two headset wrenches, one for the top nut and one for the
>>>>>>>> nut below the spacers.
>>>>>>>> I adjust my headset play and hold the lower nut while tightening
>>>>>>>> the top nut against the spacers. It takes a bit of experience to do 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> confidently.
>>>>>>>> It needs to be tight enough to prevent play but not so tight that
>>>>>>>> it binds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 9:13:17 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is the headset.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:12 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>>>>>>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I got anodized headset rings/spacers (and I may be botching the
>>>>>>>>> names here, but I’ll include a photo in the post after this and 
>>>>>>>>> you’ll see)
>>>>>>>>> and had them installed. I felt that the bike was a little vibratory 
>>>>>>>>> but it
>>>>>>>>> wasn’t until tonight that I found the source. I happened to lift the 
>>>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>> end by the bars and felt the bars shift somehow. I had a hex key and
>>>>>>>>> checked both bolts in the stem - they were tight. I got home, looked 
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> over and found that the stem is moving around in the headset. It did 
>>>>>>>>> NOT do
>>>>>>>>> this when I had the old headset.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I went online and read horror stories. I stopped reading when my
>>>>>>>>> heart started racing. Something about wrecking the steerer, which 
>>>>>>>>> sounded
>>>>>>>>> catastrophic and permanent whatever that is. Is this a minor problem 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> can be fixed with a wrench, would you guess? Or am I going to need to
>>>>>>>>> change out my headset - maybe this one is too big? Ugh, please not 
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will either have to drive 40 minutes across town to the
>>>>>>>>> mechanics who did the service tomorrow, or if you say it’s an easy 
>>>>>>>>> fix, I
>>>>>>>>> could trust the REI which is only 20 minutes away.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hoping the answer is straightforward and the problem easily
>>>>>>>>> fixable,
>>>>>>>>> Leah
>>>>>>>>>
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