If I ever get around to opening my Susie box and I can give a rough weight. 
It's rough because the only scale I have is a 1970's 25 pound "American 
Family" scale. It's accurate to the 1/2 or 1/4 pound at least. The UPS box 
is rounded off to 15 pounds though, so if someone has a 59cm. Susie box 
with packaging they could weigh it and subtract from 15 for an even rougher 
estimate. My frame inside is plus only the stock headset.  

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 2:51:32 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:

> I don't recall Rivendell ever quoting weights, other than a comment that 
> the Atlantis is about a pound more than other frames (this was wayback when 
> they had fewer models).  My 58 cm Atlantis in stock Rivendell build c. 2003 
> was around 26#.  Like happens to us all, as it's aged it's gained weight.  
> Heavier rims & tires, racks, dirt, ???.  Last time I weighed it was right 
> at 30 lbs.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 11:25:55 AM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote:
>
>>
>> I can’t imagine someone who wanted a certain Rivendell bike turning it 
>> down because another model weighed a pound less.
>>
>> I’m just interested in what  design choices have what results.  Like the 
>> step-throughs.  How does a Platypus (mixte) compare to a Susie (swooping 
>> top tube) compare to a Clem L (swooping top tube with brace)?  And how 
>> would these compare to a double-diamond of the same approximate fit?  The 
>> problem would be finding any way you could compare them directly.
>> But other than “only a couple of pounds heavier than carbon”, we really 
>> don’t hear much about Rivendell weights.
>>
>> For myself, I love the Sam because of fit and ride.  But I would be 
>> interested.
>>
>

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