This thread is becoming a very interesting discussion for me.
For 40 years I designed and tested airplanes.  I specialized in 
aerodynamics/performance, hence: aeroperf.  When a boss would ask what was 
my greatest challenge, I would have to say “Weight!”.

So Phillip points out that “those Kenda tires weigh over 5lbs a pair.”  
That leads me to wonder where my Sam’s 30.5 pounds has come from, 
especially since Linda G is riding a 22.6 pound Roadini, and all frames 
seem to be in the 6 - 10 pound range.
And I’m thinking Bill Lindsay has a great idea to try a super light build 
for a step through.  Where DOES one pick up (or shed) all that extra 
weight?  And, does it really affect how a Riv rides?

I know tire weight does, because both my wife and myself have commented how 
riding 810 gram Schwalbe Marathon tires seem to be like going through mud 
compared to the 505 gram SpeedRides we’re used to.   Plus, my college 
bicycle team would line a set of wheel rims with lead under the rim tape if 
they wanted to “challenge” the hill climbers.  But that still appears to be 
a small contributor to overall bicycle weight.

I really haven’t seen where a pound or two makes a difference on my Sam.  
If I add a rear-view mirror, it seems insignificant.  On the other hand, my 
touring bike, a Soma Saga Disc, weighs only a half pound more than the Sam 
comparably equipped.  But when I pile on 40 pounds of gear, the Sam chokes 
while the Saga goes “Meh.”  So there must be a cumulative effect, that only 
*seems* insignificant.

Back to the subject.  The Riv web site advertises the Platypus as a 
“country bike” just like the Sam.  How DO the frame weights compare?

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