This is the bike for me... (Long sigh) On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:
> Thanks, Jason, for the numbers. I really have some hard thinking to do in > the next couple of days. > On Saturday, June 5, 2021 at 7:15:13 PM UTC-6 Damien wrote: > >> I've always been a huge Appaloosa fanboy, and that Mermaid colour is >> sick! I'm honestly toying around with the idea of selling the Sam to grab >> one of these. >> >> On Friday, 4 June 2021 at 23:01:04 UTC-4 bicycler...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> I'm so excited by this color! I saw it in person on Tuesday and can't >>> stop staring at the photos I took (though I'm glad Crust posted some, >>> because mine are kind of awful) >>> I rode an employee's around Walnut Creek for 45 minutes or so and then >>> rode Grant's around the parking lot; both bikes couldn't have felt more >>> different, and the fact that they're (essentially) the same frame marked >>> just the versatility I'm after. Looking forward to having a Riv of my very >>> own! >>> It's also really nice to hear that a chunk of their sales will be going >>> to Pine Ridge. It sort of puts a finer point on "voting with your dollar" >>> By the way Jason, your bike almost sent me into a Bombadil quest like no >>> other, but have decided I want to experience this long chainstay madness. >>> >>> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 10:47:38 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: >>> >>>> I was a bit hasty there and neglected the other questions (well, the >>>> ones I can answer anyway): No change to the chainstay length nor the tire >>>> clearance, just based on comparison of new and old geometry tables. I'm >>>> not sure on other changes; Grant said this batch has slightly longer >>>> "bellies" to the butted tubes which make the frame a touch lighter and >>>> livelier, but that's as compared to the last batch rather than the first >>>> batch, so not necessarily relevant. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:42 AM Jason Fuller <jtf.f...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Keith, >>>>> >>>>> The current 57 Appa has a 10mm longer top tube than the old 58 Appa >>>>> did! Current 57 is a 625 effective TT, whereas the old 58 was 615. >>>>> Definitely sounds like good news for you! >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:35 AM iamkeith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't have time to study nuances and geometries and subtle, running >>>>>> design changes like I used to, but I still sort of regret not getting a >>>>>> 58cm double-top-tuber from the first batch. (When they were announced >>>>>> and >>>>>> went on sale, I was precluded by the fact that I was still waiting on a >>>>>> Clem from the first run, which ended up being almost - but not quite - >>>>>> ideal for me, so I eventually got rid of it.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone provide a clear, accurate summary of how the details of >>>>>> this model have changed? >>>>>> >>>>>> I know the seat tube sizes/designations are 1cm less, but did the top >>>>>> tubes or effective front-centers stay the same, or get shorter or, >>>>>> better >>>>>> yet, get LONGER? >>>>>> >>>>>> I know the fork blades got stiffer/thicker after the first run. Any >>>>>> other changes since. >>>>>> >>>>>> Has tire clearance improved? >>>>>> >>>>>> Have chainstays gotten longer or shorter, etc? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for any geeky analysis or datapoints. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 11:01:43 AM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now that the new Joe Appa's are hitting shelves (everywhere but at >>>>>>> Rivendell, as is becoming the norm!) I reckon it's time for a central >>>>>>> place >>>>>>> to chat about them, a la the Platy thread! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Crust has their inventory live for purchase at $1650: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/frames/products/rivendell-joe-appaloosa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will be abstaining because there is no line of reason that could >>>>>>> possibly justify my buying one, but I look forward to living >>>>>>> vicariously >>>>>>> through others! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: DSC07418-2_1800x1800.jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/e9cFQqaLcas/unsubscribe >>>>>> . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2311e4d2-adc9-481d-ba50-08007a48ca25n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2311e4d2-adc9-481d-ba50-08007a48ca25n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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