I dont think the standover is a huge issue, but be aware that those first gen sams are really long. They were one of - if not the first - riv model to use "expanded sizing" increments and sloped top tubes. I think a 56 would have been most comparable to a (riv) normal 60 or 61 at the time. If you cant find old geo on riv's site, use the wayback machine and search Renaissance Cycles. They were a dealer at the time who posted lots of images.
On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 6:48:52 AM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: > Oooh...good ideas on other bikes. I had a shot at Rambo before I bought my > Atlantis...but a Roadini seems really interesting to me, too...and it takes > up to 38mm without fenders. > > Great stuff, Johnny! > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 7:43 AM Johnny Alien <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Additionally the Sam is a great country bike and limestone trail rides >> are right up its alley. If I was looking for lighter and zippier with some >> light rail trail use I would look for RIvs in this order: >> Rambouillet/Romulus, Toyo AHH, Roadini, Soma San Marcos >> >> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:30:56 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: >> >>> Can it be lighter? Sure if you built it up that way. Your Atlantis could >>> be lighter with stuff removed as well. A double top tube 64cm steel bike >>> will never really be a super light bike. I think the MIT Atlantis is a very >>> similar bike to be honest. Rivendell said that the Waterford 64cm Sam frame >>> would be good for a PBH of 94-101 so I would say that it would be too big. >>> Some will say its fine just bury the seatpost and stem. It all depends on >>> how you like a bike to fit. >>> >>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:56:59 AM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Hey everyone! >>>> I'll keep this as short as I can. There's a Sam up for sale that I'm >>>> interested in. The seller says it's a Waterford Sam, which I think is >>>> pretty neat. It's orange, double top tube, and does not have the cream >>>> head >>>> tube. I think it's neat! >>>> >>>> So questions... >>>> It's a 64cm frame. I found some old geometry charts and found that 64cm >>>> Sams have 91.5cm of standover height. My PBH is 93.5. Does anyone feel >>>> that >>>> this is WAY too close, even if I put some 38mm tires on it? If the group >>>> thinks Riv would be able to help, I'd happily call them (I just know >>>> they're probably quite busy). >>>> >>>> I currently have a MIT 59cm Atlantis which I absolutely love. It's my >>>> commuter and fun ride machine...I just hate loading into my car to drive >>>> it >>>> to fun trails around town. It's pretty heavy (34 pounds with fenders and >>>> racks but unloaded). Am I fooling myself by thinking that the Sam would be >>>> a little bit lighter and zippier bike for long unloaded crushed limestone >>>> trail rides? >>>> >>>> Any feedback or input would be great! >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Ben "tempted by a Sam" in Omaha >>>> >>> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d5ae4917-11a5-4171-823c-1d559831ca1fn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d5ae4917-11a5-4171-823c-1d559831ca1fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6047cd62-9278-4453-b640-10cf3a73eac6n%40googlegroups.com.
