Thanks for the thoughts on food/drink from everyone. No need to sidetrack the thread, but Bill's list of food made me curious what folks are doing.
I will incorporate more ice cream sandwiches Adam On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 2:28:27 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Toshi > > I will look for you. I've got the Legolas in the stand right now to > switch to Bon Jon Pass Extralights, but my perverse contrarian impulse is > to leave the 700x38 knobby Steilacooms on there. A road brevet on > knobbies! That's audacious! They are even *standard casing*. I already > did two road brevets this year on 29er mountain bike race tires, despite > the fact that people finger wagged at me that I would hate myself for the > unnecessary suffering. The other thing I like about fast knobbies is that > it seems they are far more puncture resistant. There are two reasons for > this: > > 1. When I was a small boy, and my dad helped coach our youth soccer team, > he used to call my soccer cleats "Ants got a chance" shoes. Block knobbies > like the Steilacoom seem to me that in order to pick up a piece of glass, > you have to roll over it AND hit it with a knob. Some glass you'll hit the > glass with the gap between knobs and you won't pick it up. > 2. Even if you do pick up a piece of glass in a knob, it'll take a while > to hammer it in. The rubber at the knob is quite thick. If the piece of > glass is small, you'll never punch through. If the piece of glass is big > enough that it could punch through, you may hear the tick-tick and wipe it > off with the palm of the glove. > > I'll probably put the road tires on, just to avoid the side-eye from the > roadies. :) > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 3:25:39 PM UTC-7 ttoshi wrote: > >> Hi Adam, >> >> --Regarding longer ride nutrition, I like to use Hammer Perpetuem. I >> currently make a homemade version, but it is maltodextrin with some soy >> protein and fat (lecithin). I add a lot of scoops like 5-6 in one of my >> water bottles--it has a shake-like consistency-- and it will fuel me for >> 60-70 miles. I bring extra packets in ziploc bags to refill, but depending >> upon heat and pace, I may not stomach them. You'll need to learn what >> sounds and feels tasty to you on the later stages of a ride. I love V8 >> drinks for the salt/potassium, soups, bread, nuts and fruit do well with >> me, but you'll need to find out what works for you. >> >> --Bill, I'll probably see you on the Santa Cruz 200k in September. I'll >> probably ride my Roadeo. Maybe I'll see you on your Legolas! >> >> Toshi >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:48 AM Adam <adam....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the report. >>> >>> I'm curious to hear about your and others' nutrition strategies. I've >>> not ridden a 200k yet but plan to soon. On rides longer than 100k or so, I >>> find that I need eat way more than you describe. I totally over ate on a >>> century a few months ago and got a bit sick post ride(no more pizza!) Since >>> then I've not had time to do another century, but on 50-70 mile rides I've >>> been trying to snack throughout the ride, esp early, and that works for me. >>> >>> Any suggestions from folks when doing rides long enough to require a >>> meal? >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 9:10:25 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>>> Yesterday was brevet day, and it was my 29th career 200k brevet, but my >>>> first on a "road bike". From the start I've always had one or more "rando >>>> builds" from which to choose, and so I've always ridden one of those >>>> machines. I always had mixed feelings towards those randos who strap a >>>> bunch of afterthought bags to their carbon road bikes. Are they cheating >>>> on a race bike? Will they be suffering because of their skinny tires? >>>> This time, with the weather warm, the pavement decent, and the course not >>>> too hilly, I decided to give the whole road bike brevet thing a try. >>>> >>>> The field was tiny, allegedly 8 riders. I only saw five of them at the >>>> start; the Escape From Alcatraz Race occupied the parking lot where we >>>> intended to start and the volunteer who takes the sign ins couldn't get >>>> there in his car. The six of us were prepared to collect EPP (Electronic >>>> Proof of Passage) and started our GPS units and headed out. Bless his >>>> heart the start control volunteer later found me on the route and took my >>>> signature there, explaining I wouldn't get credit without having signed >>>> the >>>> waiver. >>>> >>>> The weather was in the mid 50s and foggy at the start as we crossed the >>>> Golden Gate Bridge. The cross winds that would continue all day were very >>>> light in the morning and would be far stronger in the afternoon, which was >>>> advantageous. The course headed mainly into a headwind while the winds >>>> were weak and returned with a tailwind while the winds strengthened. I >>>> did >>>> most of the ride solo, and I believe I was probably the second finisher. >>>> One rider who went out fast on the first climb of the day, I passed buying >>>> mangoes at a fruitstand late in the afternoon. One rider who blew past me >>>> was on a current A Homer Hilsen, and he cheerfully said "Nice Bike!" as >>>> his >>>> youthful strong legs propelled him down the road. >>>> >>>> My early vintage Roadeo did exceedingly well. I had a slight panic >>>> when I realized that I did not pack gloves, so it was also my first >>>> barehanded 200k. The only inconvenience that ended up causing was it give >>>> me another place to apply sunscreen, and with no gloves my slick >>>> sunscreened fingers were a little bit slippy on my shellacked bar tape and >>>> hoods. Overall not a big problem. >>>> >>>> From a handling and comfort perspective, the bike was exceptional. My >>>> back, arms and shoulders felt great all day. Mechanically the bike was >>>> perfect. I don't think I ever needed to use my lowest gear, despite some >>>> steep pitches. I went out pretty fast in the first half but backed off a >>>> little on the wind-aided return when I noticed the smell of wildfire smoke >>>> in the air. It was nowhere near the worst I've seen, and the consistent >>>> west to east crosswinds certainly helped clean things out for this coastal >>>> route. I finished the 127 miles, 7300ft of climbing in 9:22 actual, 8:37 >>>> moving. Anything under 10 hours is quick for me. >>>> >>>> As per usual, the only things I would change about a Roadeo to make it >>>> an even more perfect brevet bike would have been a tiny bit wider tires. >>>> I'm running 700x32 Stampede Pass Extralights, and would have loved to >>>> enjoy >>>> 35s or 38s. I still think a semi-custom Roadeo with cantilever brakes and >>>> a tiny bit wider clearances would be tremendous. I'll test that theory by >>>> doing my next brevet on my Legolas with 700x35 Bon Jon Pass Extralights, >>>> in >>>> September. With the skinny tires, I did notice the bumps, particularly at >>>> the end of the day, and my tush was definitely a bit sore with my firm >>>> Fizik Arione racing saddle. It also made me think about those forgotten >>>> gloves... >>>> >>>> For a warm weathered, unfendered 200k setup without lighting, I used my >>>> Ruthworks Storm Series brevet bag and seat wedge, which provided ample >>>> capacity. Highly recommended bags if you want to 'rando-up' a stripped >>>> down bike. >>>> >>>> For nutrition, I carried three Lara Bars and one Nature Valley granola >>>> bar. I had the crunchy granola bar first for "breakfast". On the course >>>> I >>>> bought a small cheese twist bread thing in Tomales when I was craving >>>> savory. I emptied somewhere in the neighborhood of 7 large water bottles. >>>> >>>> I started with homemade ACV Gatorade, and supplemented on the road with >>>> water, a pellegrino, a cold bottled coffee drink and an iced tea. I >>>> finished with one Lara Bar uneaten, and had a salad and some nuts when I >>>> got home. >>>> >>>> It was a splendid day on the bike. I posted a couple photos on >>>> instagram @bicyclebubba >>>> >>>> Bill Lindsay >>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b29ce399-53b1-45ae-8041-82426dae64d5n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b29ce399-53b1-45ae-8041-82426dae64d5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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