Have I missed the size bike you are seeking?

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 07:29, Christopher Cote <christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I've never seen a Specialized Sequoia in person. Maybe they're more common 
> on the west coast, but around here, you'd have a better chance of finding a 
> Heron Road, or Riv Rambouillet used. I've also never understood why the 
> Sequoia has such status here. It's not very "Riv-ish". To me, the first tenet 
> of Rivishness is a slack seat tube. Everything else is built around that. The 
> Sequoia has a 74 degree STA. Sure, you can set a super setback seatpost, but 
> that makes the reach to the bars way too long, and upsets the whole aesthetic.
> 
> Yankeebird - there's a lot more to the Trek 720 than the long chainstays. I 
> personally am not a fan of the 720. If you're lusting after an old Trek, my 
> preference would be the 1983 or older 620.  I had one of those, and it was a 
> great bike. The 720 is a purpose built loaded tourer. It may not appear so to 
> the eye, but it's built of very stout tubing, and won't ride as nicely 
> unloaded as some of the other suggestions, and certainly not as nice as a 
> Roadini. I don't know how it would compare to a LHT. The deal killer for the 
> 720, though, are the wheels and brakes. It was built around 27" wheels with 
> cantilever brakes and very narrow brake post spacing. Without getting too 
> deep in the weeds, that makes it challenging to convert to 700c. It's much 
> easier on the 1983 620 with regular caliper brakes. The 620 also was built of 
> lighter tubing.
> 
> Where are you located? Have you found any bikes for sale locally that you are 
> interested in?
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 2:05:45 AM UTC-4 Jay P wrote:
>> You have at least two great options that are easy to find (with a little 
>> patience):
>> 
>> 1)  Specialized Sequoia, earlier the better
>> 
>> Obvio.  For all the reasons.  But I think this is better....     :
>> 
>> 
>> 2)  Trek 710 (1983 or before, earlier maybe better but not necessarily)  
>> 
>> I"m surprised these don't get higher prices as it is the perfect all around 
>> road bike -- Rivendells surely improve on them but....        
>> 
>> I've seen some frames/forks clear up to 700x40, but you need to triple 
>> confirm because sometimes just barely 35mm. Often already have rack mounts.  
>> I've set up many people on these and almost uniformly superb riding bikes -- 
>> lively, fun, practical, probably supple.   If you're feeling flush, have a 
>> framebuilder improve it (downtube cable stops, better brake cable routing, 
>> 2nd and/or 3rd water bottle cage mounts (triple mount on seat tube for the 
>> King manything ti cage?), rear der. stop?) and get it powder coated or 
>> painted.   Phenomenal bikes.  I'm surprised we all aren't competing for 
>> these.  
>> 
>> + make sure you have proper stem, handlebars, wheels, and tires
>> 
>> A nice 710 (without the framebuilding stuff) + parts (assuming you do the 
>> work + have some parts around) = maybe $500-800
>> 
>> Best value around !
>> 
>> Wishing you well ----
>> Jay P.
>> Kauai 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>      
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:45:29 AM UTC-7 Yankeebird wrote:
>>> I would like a Roadini, but it's going to be a while, and I'm going through 
>>> some money constraints right now, and I don't mind fixing up something else 
>>> in the interim. I have a Cheviot right now, and it's my primary main bike 
>>> for everything. I also have a Surly CC that I built up with an Alfine IGH 8 
>>> and Albatross bars, but I keep that at Mom's so when my bro and I visit we 
>>> have a bike to bang around on to blow off steam.
>>> 
>>> I would really like a decent smooth steel frame that will take at least a 
>>> 32-38 tire, and I can build up either with another IGH/albatross or a 
>>> cassette and drop bars depending on my whims. Something zippier than my 
>>> Cheviot but not a straight up triathlon bike. 
>>> 
>>> I'd like to get my hands on a '86 Schwinn Passage (my brother has this bike 
>>> and it's an incredible) or an early/mid 80's Trek 720. But these things are 
>>> going for PREMIUM money, almost ridiculous. I value them as $200-300 bikes, 
>>> but they are listed at $800+ and it boggles my mind. 
>>> 
>>> Any other comparable frames to the above two I mentioned that I should be 
>>> looking at? What about Motobecanes? Do they have standard sizing for 
>>> components or am I going to be banging my head against the wall finding 
>>> French sized parts? 
>>> 
>>> Biking is something I enjoy, and I can do basic bike MX and can learn the 
>>> stuff I don't know, but I am not deep in the weeds of dorkdom when it comes 
>>> to bikes. I have other much deeper passions. I probably won't build a 
>>> wheel, but I can replace a BB. I know what I like and what I want when I 
>>> see it, if I'm pointed in the correct direction by those who know. Hence 
>>> this query. 
> 
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