I should know by now to highlight the "death fork" in every thread that 
mentions my 614. My bad. Sounds like I should bite the bullet and replace 
it before I kill anyone should I sell it. 

Marty
On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 12:15:13 PM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:

> There are literally tons of candidates out there. I'm old and graying, and 
> so understand the literal meaning of "tons." Heck, just amongst us ibobers 
> we could likely dig out the 400-500 excess 4lb~5lb frames we'd need to make 
> a ton. Maybe not all your size. I won't get into details here since I don't 
> have numbers ready, but I've got two 61cm-ish cheapish-but-nice, higher-end 
> sport-tour Fujis that'd fit the bill nicely, along with a genuine tourer if 
> somebody wanted something stouter, with even better clearance. Plus a 
> forkless Miyata 912, and likely a couple others.  
>
> No shortage of candidates...
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 9:05:03 AM UTC-4 Yankeebird wrote:
>
>> Wow so many sweet looking bikes and so many great ideas... this thread is 
>> paying off in spades and has definitely broadened my eye. Lovely. 
>> That Mercian is a heartstopper. Wowzer. I couldn't do it. I'm not worthy. 
>> You should keep her, for sure. 
>>
>> Martie, what's the size of that Trek 614... 22.5"?
>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 10:36:39 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> My Saluki was originally owned by Ed Braley
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 9:59:32 PM UTC-4 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have gotten great service out of a mid 80s Nashbar Mark III. It was 
>>>> originally converted to 650B by Ed Braley, if you're familiar with the 
>>>> name 
>>>> and came to me via a Riv List member.  I rode it for a while with a Veloce 
>>>> Compact double, but for a while have used a Chorus 50/40/26 triple.  I 
>>>> have 
>>>> an XT in back with a 11-36 9  speed and use it on hilly rides. It maxes 
>>>> out 
>>>> at 38mm without fenders on Velocity Synergy or A23 rims. Tange tubing and 
>>>> so far very durable. Very affordable frame on the used market. Made for 
>>>> Nashbar by Maruishi in Japan.[image: CHC Ferrous.jpg] 
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 5:31:52 PM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, 
>>>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also have this Trek 614 from 1981 that is too small for me. Amazing 
>>>>> condition as-found. It came with 27" wheels but I tried a set of 700c 
>>>>> wheels with 40mm tires that they actually fit! I would part with it if 
>>>>> this 
>>>>> floats your boat.  I can get better pics of the current cleaned up state. 
>>>>> It's a stunning bike. 
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: 51036092221_89fff1d3be_c.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 6:19:39 PM UTC-4 Marty Gierke, 
>>>>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep an eye out for an early to mid 80s Miyata 912 or 914. I picked 
>>>>>> this '83 912 up recently and it's a very nice bike. Will fit 32s. One 
>>>>>> level 
>>>>>> below the pro models. This is an as-found photo - I have since added the 
>>>>>> correct seatpost and pedals. Will find replacement hoods. Look at that 
>>>>>> sweet fork bend! All Shimano 600EX. Kind of flies under the radar so you 
>>>>>> might get lucky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: 51403719006_1f39030bf6_c.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 4:56:22 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Craig, if you're asking yourself whether you should sell it, I think 
>>>>>>> you'll regret it, just because you have so much history with it.(Why I 
>>>>>>> can't part with my old PX-10 and 1993 X0-1...plus 3 Rivendells) .That 
>>>>>>> is a 
>>>>>>> beauty! So understated and elegant! The Gentleman moniker is very apt. 
>>>>>>> Have 
>>>>>>> another think about letting go of that...with all due respect to the 
>>>>>>> original poster😊
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ryan in Winnipeg, MB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 2:21:46 PM UTC-5 Craig Montgomery 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I actually have one that might interest you Bubba. An '86 Mercian 
>>>>>>>> I've had almost 2 decades. 59cm (23 1/2"). 531C. "Sport Touring". 
>>>>>>>> 700x32mm 
>>>>>>>> BUT my favorite iteration is as a 650Bx38 All Roader. Got these wheels 
>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>> sale also but they may be more than you want to invest (Phil Wood). I 
>>>>>>>> have 
>>>>>>>> set it up Fixed, with a Sturmey Archer 4 speed, 700x32 Light Tourer, 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> 650Bx38 All Road. Damn I'm convincing myself not to sell it. 
>>>>>>>> Here it is fixed: 
>>>>>>>>  [image: monto1.jpg]
>>>>>>>> Gentleman's Tourer (moteling it):
>>>>>>>> [image: Mercian and Barbed Wire.jpg]
>>>>>>>> As a 650B with PariMoto 38's
>>>>>>>> [image: Mercian 650B by Falls.jpg]
>>>>>>>> [image: Mt. Hopkins from Elephant Head Road Cropped.jpg]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this pushes a button email me. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Craig way too many frames and projects in Tucson
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:45:29 AM UTC-7 Yankeebird 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like a Roadini, but it's going to be a while, and I'm 
>>>>>>>>> going through some money constraints right now, and I don't mind 
>>>>>>>>> fixing up 
>>>>>>>>> something else in the interim. I have a Cheviot right now, and it's 
>>>>>>>>> my 
>>>>>>>>> primary main bike for everything. I also have a Surly CC that I built 
>>>>>>>>> up 
>>>>>>>>> with an Alfine IGH 8 and Albatross bars, but I keep that at Mom's so 
>>>>>>>>> when 
>>>>>>>>> my bro and I visit we have a bike to bang around on to blow off steam.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would really like a decent smooth steel frame that will take at 
>>>>>>>>> least a 32-38 tire, and I can build up either with another 
>>>>>>>>> IGH/albatross or 
>>>>>>>>> a cassette and drop bars depending on my whims. Something zippier 
>>>>>>>>> than my 
>>>>>>>>> Cheviot but not a straight up triathlon bike. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to get my hands on a '86 Schwinn Passage (my brother has 
>>>>>>>>> this bike and it's an incredible) or an early/mid 80's Trek 720. But 
>>>>>>>>> these 
>>>>>>>>> things are going for PREMIUM money, almost ridiculous. I value them 
>>>>>>>>> as 
>>>>>>>>> $200-300 bikes, but they are listed at $800+ and it boggles my mind. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any other comparable frames to the above two I mentioned that I 
>>>>>>>>> should be looking at? What about Motobecanes? Do they have standard 
>>>>>>>>> sizing 
>>>>>>>>> for components or am I going to be banging my head against the wall 
>>>>>>>>> finding 
>>>>>>>>> French sized parts? 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Biking is something I enjoy, and I can do basic bike MX and can 
>>>>>>>>> learn the stuff I don't know, but I am not deep in the weeds of 
>>>>>>>>> dorkdom 
>>>>>>>>> when it comes to bikes. I have other much deeper passions. I probably 
>>>>>>>>> won't 
>>>>>>>>> build a wheel, but I can replace a BB. I know what I like and what I 
>>>>>>>>> want 
>>>>>>>>> when I see it, if I'm pointed in the correct direction by those who 
>>>>>>>>> know. 
>>>>>>>>> Hence this query. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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