Bill,

Nothing wrong with a original build, testament to a build that has served 
you well or your stubborn /s

I look forward to see what kind of changes you make? Please repost on this 
thread so we can see what you landed on? I can't disagree with you I get a 
ton of joy thinking about a build
bits and pieces.

I know Grant IIRC coined the term Beausage and he's got something there. A 
well used bike but mechanically maintained equates to bike love for me. 
Although, a new fresh bike is pretty sweet.

I remember hearing this Japanese term on this list serve or maybe one of 
Grant's posts Wabi Sabi. 

>From WikiPedia: In traditional Japanese aesthetics 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_aesthetics>, *wabi-sabi* (侘 
<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E4%BE%98>寂 
<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%AF%82>) is a world view 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_view> centered on the acceptance of 
transience <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transience> and imperfection.[2] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi#cite_note-2> The aesthetic is 
sometimes described as one of appreciating beauty that is "imperfect, 
impermanent, and incomplete" in nature.[3] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi#cite_note-Koren-3> It is a concept 
derived from the Buddhist <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist> teaching 
of the three marks of existence 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_marks_of_existence> (三法印, *sanbōin*), 
specifically impermanence <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impermanence> (無常, 
*mujō*), suffering <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dukkha> (苦, *ku*) and 
emptiness 
or absence of self-nature 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9A%C5%ABnyat%C4%81> (空, *kū*).

Characteristics of *wabi-sabi* aesthetics and principles include asymmetry 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetry>, roughness, simplicity 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplicity>, economy, austerity, modesty, 
intimacy <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intimacy>, and the appreciation of 
both natural objects and the forces of nature.

I like this very much.


Best Regards,

Hugh

On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 11:05:21 AM UTC-7 Bill Fulford wrote:

> I bought my Atlantis in 2007. It’s a Toyo built. Originally it was set up 
> for touring. 700 by 35 tires, fenders etc. Since then it’s gone through 
> several changes. I’m on the second set of wheels, now Atlas, and the second 
> crank. It’s pretty much a basic build. I’ve always kept the nitto drops. 
> They are comfortable although not good when I take the Atlantis off road.
> This winter I’m planning on a partial rebuild. I don’t know exactly what 
> my plans are but a change in handlebars, shifters, brakes are probable. 
> It’s fun thinking about the changes. I’ve decided not to have it repainted, 
> those scars have been well earned.

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