Back in the day when everything was friction shifting, you could tell if your 
frame had more than normal flex in it because the D-rings would need to be 
snugged down more frequently as the frame tugged at the cables.

As others have said, most friction systems are set-and-forget. You’ll know if 
the D-rings need to be tightened, and then it takes about two seconds to do 
that. 

Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com



> On Nov 15, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My experience is they need to be snugged up every now and then. After a while 
> you'll be able to tell as soon as you nudge the D-ring before a ride that 
> it's time. 
> 
> Joe Bernard
> 
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:52:44 AM UTC-8 adamc...@gmail.com 
> <http://gmail.com/> wrote:
> D-ring, yes. I'll give it a shot, thanks for the tip. This is my first time 
> using friction shifting on a bicycle so it's all new to me!
> 
> Does that d-ring / tension tend to need regular attention or does it just 
> need to be dialed initially and then get on with it and forget about it?
> 
> 
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
> From what you wrote Adam it's a matter of adjusting the tension bolt, which 
> I'm assuming is a d-ring, yes ? These are adjustable on the fly, you want 
> just enough tension to hold the gear. It's just something you get a feel for, 
> not too tight, not too loose. 
> 
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com <> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am enjoying my brand spanking new Joe Appaloosa built up by Rivendell. Had 
> it for about 6 weeks or so, I have put maybe 75 miles or so on it, most of 
> them from the Nutmeg Nor'easter ride a couple of weekends ago, which was a 
> wonderful 40 mile ride, Joe's maiden voyage I'd say.
> 
> Yesterday I was going for a short 6 mile ride and noticed that rear shifting 
> was weird. I was able to shift from largest to next largest cog of the 
> cassette, no problem, but as soon as I'd try to shift to the next largest cog 
> (3rd from largest), it's as though the shifter took over and would shift all 
> the way to the smallest cog. I'd then try to shift up one cog, but the 
> shifter was resistant to light force, the amount of force that would 
> typically shift up a gear.. If I tried to shift all the way back to the 
> largest cog this would work. I have a triple up front, I tested out rear 
> shifting in each of the front positions with the same results each time.
> 
> I searched this group and the internet a bit, and it doesn't seem like ghost 
> shifting exactly, it's not skipping or shifting a single gear on its own. It 
> is ghost-like though in that it is shifting from 3rd largest all the way to 
> the smallest cog on its own. I'm unsure if this is a Silver shifter issue 
> (tighten the bolt?) or a derailleur issue (adjust some things).
> 
> I plan to call Rivendell this week, but figured I'd tap the collective 
> knowledge and experience of this group in the meantime.
> 
> Any thoughts or tips?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Adam
> 
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