This is the part where I annoy everybody..I dislike those shifters. 9-speed 
Shimano uses clicks in the back that work great (plus friction option), and 
the front friction shifter doesn't loosen up. Easy! 

Joe Bernard

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:38:51 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:

>   My shifters only tend to loosen with large shifts in climates, usually 
> from humid to dry and hot to cold. Rather than trying to tighten it where 
> it is, I simply don't pedal, then I loosen/release the tension of the 
> D-ring totally and gently snug it up from fresh from there. 
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:08:24 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Back in the day when everything was friction shifting, you could tell if 
>> your frame had more than normal flex in it because the D-rings would need 
>> to be snugged down more frequently as the frame tugged at the cables.
>>
>> As others have said, most friction systems are set-and-forget. You’ll 
>> know if the D-rings need to be tightened, and then it takes about two 
>> seconds to do that. 
>>
>> Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My experience is they need to be snugged up every now and then. After a 
>> while you'll be able to tell as soon as you nudge the D-ring before a ride 
>> that it's time. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:52:44 AM UTC-8 adamc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> D-ring, yes. I'll give it a shot, thanks for the tip. This is my first 
>>> time using friction shifting on a bicycle so it's all new to me!
>>>
>>> Does that d-ring / tension tend to need regular attention or does it 
>>> just need to be dialed initially and then get on with it and forget about 
>>> it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> From what you wrote Adam it's a matter of adjusting the tension bolt, 
>>>> which I'm assuming is a d-ring, yes ? These are adjustable on the fly, you 
>>>> want just enough tension to hold the gear. It's just something you get a 
>>>> feel for, not too tight, not too loose. 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am enjoying my brand spanking new Joe Appaloosa built up by 
>>>>> Rivendell. Had it for about 6 weeks or so, I have put maybe 75 miles or 
>>>>> so 
>>>>> on it, most of them from the Nutmeg Nor'easter ride a couple of weekends 
>>>>> ago, which was a wonderful 40 mile ride, Joe's maiden voyage I'd say.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I was going for a short 6 mile ride and noticed that rear 
>>>>> shifting was weird. I was able to shift from largest to next largest cog 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> the cassette, no problem, but as soon as I'd try to shift to the next 
>>>>> largest cog (3rd from largest), it's as though the shifter took over and 
>>>>> would shift all the way to the smallest cog. I'd then try to shift up one 
>>>>> cog, but the shifter was resistant to light force, the amount of force 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> would typically shift up a gear.. If I tried to shift all the way back to 
>>>>> the largest cog this would work. I have a triple up front, I tested out 
>>>>> rear shifting in each of the front positions with the same results each 
>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I searched this group and the internet a bit, and it doesn't seem like 
>>>>> ghost shifting exactly, it's not skipping or shifting a single gear on 
>>>>> its 
>>>>> own. It is ghost-like though in that it is shifting from 3rd largest all 
>>>>> the way to the smallest cog on its own. I'm unsure if this is a Silver 
>>>>> shifter issue (tighten the bolt?) or a derailleur issue (adjust some 
>>>>> things).
>>>>>
>>>>> I plan to call Rivendell this week, but figured I'd tap the collective 
>>>>> knowledge and experience of this group in the meantime.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts or tips?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>
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