To FURTHER foul up the decision-making process, did you all read in Grant’s Blahg that they are working on the Roscopus? See below:
3. Rosco-Plats: Like the Platypus, but less lugged, and with 100 percent straight, strong, safe, beautiful CLEM forks that just happened to have the threaded rack bosses mis-drilled ever so slightly, to the extent that we couldn't sell them as perfect, but their flub is visual only, and we're getting deals on them and so designed frames around them, and the frames are gonna be fantastic and inexpensive by our standards. Think Platypus-Clem offspring. Decisions, decisions, Laura! What will you do now? Leah Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 12, 2021, at 6:16 AM, Fullylugged <bruce.herbit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > To Doug's comments on Clem L: > > I put a local rider with spine issues on one about 2 years ago to suit her > need for a comfortable upright ride. She is mostly on pavement, but some of > that is coarse chipseal. We built the bike with Continental "Basketball" > tires instead of Schwalbes to get a livelier ride. She has no trouble doing > club rides at 18 mph when desired, or tooling on gravel at under 10 mph. It's > been a winner all around and of course, Clem is one of Rivs more reasonably > prices models. Leah who posted about her Platypus also has a Clem L and > enjoys it as well, though not as much as her Platy, I think. > > To the earlier comment about most rivs riding anywhere: > > Yes, The "Adventure bike" zeitgeist of :any bike, any road is fully embraced > by rivendell. All models have limits and some do one thing or another better > than something else, but you can't go wrong with any Rivendell of any era. I > have a 1995 Road model. With gravel tires on, it does that just fine. With > fat road tires, it handles all the surfaces I am likely to be on. Of my 4 > bikes, it is the one that gets most of the miles every year. > > Bruce > >> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote: >> Laura, >> I can put the Clem L in the category you are searching just to muddy the >> waters. Mine is the Lime Olive and is set up 1x10 with knobby tires, 2.3 >> wide I believe. It is equally efficient on trails, gravel and asphalt. It >> climbs unbelievably for a 32 pound bicycle. In fact, it has made me rethink >> the weight of a bike being a significant factor in climbing and >> accelerating. >> Doug >> Athens, Ga >> >>> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 7:33:05 AM UTC-5 me2g...@gmail.com wrote: >>> EDIT… >>> >>> Jarad = Jared >>> >>> Lime green = Lime olive >>> >>> 2022 orange Platypus = my prediction >>> >>> >>>> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 6:49:28 AM UTC-5 Laura B wrote: >>>> Jarad, thank you for your insights. I have to laugh because the answers >>>> have made me confident that either bike will be a great all-rounder, but >>>> the answers have also made me yearn for both! >>>> >>>> So, I am back to square one. Loving both bikes for their potential to >>>> compliment one another, but having no idea which one I like best as an >>>> all-rounder! Shallow me… the orange of the current Susie was easily >>>> tipping the balance in that direction. When they announced the current >>>> colors, it placed both bikes on equal ground. I have no doubt I will sweat >>>> it out till the last minute! I also predict I will buy a lime green Susie >>>> in 2021, then go nuts when an orange Platypus is released in 2022!!! >>>> >>>>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 11:27:52 PM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> Both bike will do what you're looking for, and you wont come near the >>>>> limitations of either. >>>>> >>>>> I had a Susie and my fiancee has a Platy, both bikes handle the type of >>>>> riding you describe with ease. >>>>> >>>>> The Susie is more confidence inspiring off road and demands a larger tire >>>>> to take full advantage of its potential. >>>>> >>>>> The Platy has a more sophisticated look and handles on road riding in a >>>>> way that leaves you wanting for nothing. >>>>> >>>>> I didn't love the way a large load felt on the front of the Susie, where >>>>> as the Plat handles similar loads with ease. >>>>> >>>>> All said I'll be getting another Susie this round, one size up from my >>>>> previous size L. >>>>> >>>>> I'll also be keeping a close eye on the next bath of Platy's as well, I >>>>> feel there is enough difference between the two to justify owning both, >>>>> tho I'm trying to keep it down to just one bike at a time. >>>>> >>>>> Best of luck with whatever you choose >>>>> >>>>> Jared in SLO >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 7:57:40 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> Thank you Joe. My hunch is that you are right. All Rivendell bikes are >>>>>> multi-functional with the right components. I pulled the 2.2 tire size >>>>>> out of my head so that it would become a non-factor when making the >>>>>> comparison. I thought it was the largest Platypus could handle without >>>>>> fenders. Still curious to hear about ride quality from real world >>>>>> experience. Anyone riding a Susie for an afternoon over pavement? Or >>>>>> picking their Platypus for off-road trails? >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 10:38:02 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Laura, welcome! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tire size may be the decider for you since you mentioned 2.2. The max >>>>>>> listed for Platy is 50mm, which works out to about 1.95 inches. The >>>>>>> Susie goes to 2.8 so is definitely the way to go if you wants lots of >>>>>>> air between trail and rim. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for the question of which is a better all-rounder, the answer is >>>>>>> both! Just about every Riv ever made - and certainly most of the >>>>>>> current models - will happily do all the riding you've described, so I >>>>>>> think you'll need to weigh other factors: tire size, color, lugs or >>>>>>> fillet joints, higher toptube or lower (I'm into lower), and >>>>>>> availability. Heck, you can choose based on the name you like best! 🙂 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe Bernard >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 7:21:57 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Thank you for the Platy feedback… Do I want to wait 6 to 9 months more >>>>>>>> for a bike? No! But, I will be building up a frame and parts are >>>>>>>> back-ordered as well, so buying a frame now will still involve waiting >>>>>>>> to get all of the components. Although, I am trying to make my mind up >>>>>>>> fast incase I decide on a Susie. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I love the build of both bikes. I am not sure I want a tig welded >>>>>>>> version. Nothing wrong with tig welded bikes, but I already have one >>>>>>>> in the vintage MTB category. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My theoretical question is: if components and tires are the same, how >>>>>>>> do the two bikes ride on pavement and easy trails? Is one of the bikes >>>>>>>> a better all-rounder??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 9:07:15 PM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Am I making this up, or is there going to be a Platypus style frame >>>>>>>>> that will be tig welded and a little stouter tubing coming as well? >>>>>>>>> Would that possibly be something that would fit the bill for Laura? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ben, who could be imagining things, in Omaha >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2021, at 8:01 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>>>>>>>>>> <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Laura! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a Platypus and am a big fan of it. I have not ridden a Susie, >>>>>>>>>> but I do have a Clem (which is in the same Hillibike category as >>>>>>>>>> Susie). I won’t speak to trail riding because I don’t do a lot of >>>>>>>>>> it, and my bikes are set up differently. But I see Blue Lug videos >>>>>>>>>> showing guys riding Platys all over the darn countryside, so it’s >>>>>>>>>> probably doable. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My point would be this: How soon are you looking to get a bike? >>>>>>>>>> Because there is a shipment of incoming Susies heading to Rivendell >>>>>>>>>> soon, like this month, but there will be no Platypuses until middle >>>>>>>>>> to late 2022. (Rivendell says May 2022, but their bikes always seem >>>>>>>>>> a couple/few months delayed. Last year they said Platys would come >>>>>>>>>> October, then November, and so on and so forth. They actually came >>>>>>>>>> in April or May of the next year.) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, if you want a bike soon, get a Susie. If you want to wait, >>>>>>>>>> Platys will arrive later in 2022. >>>>>>>>>> L >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 5:08:15 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, I am new to this group and still trying to decide which >>>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell bike will be my first. I am torn between the Platypus >>>>>>>>>>>> and a Susie Longbolts. I hope that there are people here that have >>>>>>>>>>>> ridden both, or have turned one of them into their all-around, >>>>>>>>>>>> multi-terrain bike. Ideally, I would LOVE to have both, but that >>>>>>>>>>>> will take a few years to achieve! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As a note, all-terrain is pavement, gravel, fire roads, >>>>>>>>>>>> hard-packed sand. Not aggressive single track or severe off-road. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell promotes the Platypus mainly for pavement and the Susie >>>>>>>>>>>> for trails. In theory, if both were equipped with the same 2.2” >>>>>>>>>>>> all-terrain tire, which one would make the best multi-use bike? >>>>>>>>>>>> Would the differences be minor or is the geometry on one better >>>>>>>>>>>> able to adapt? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Should I limit my expectations to what the bikes were designed for? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help, >>>>>>>>>>>> Laura >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3854c011-f48f-4b08-ae6f-4e378c1d77ean%40googlegroups.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/a5Q_G831l3w/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1b45ac89-ecd2-4ebe-ad7f-4e222e6f7113n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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