Hey Rich,

Not sure if you were referring to other protectors when you mentioned 'less 
invasive' or other methods of removing the cloth wrap. If the latter, where 
were these mentioned. May be time to remove mine.

Cheers,
John

On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 3:24:27 AM UTC+9 RichS wrote:

> Or, avoid the guesswork and use one of the other less invasive methods 
> recommended.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:04 PM, Joe Mullins <jmlmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow thanks for the heads up about removing paint! I wonder if a heat gun 
>> on low would help prevent that…
>>
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:02 AM, RichS <rshann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> As Ben noted, cloth and twine is "bulletproof" chain stay protection. One 
>> caveat though: if you ever decide to remove it, the adhesive quality of 
>> cloth hbar tape has the ability to remove paint (ask me how I know!). Riv 
>> sells these chain stay protectors - currently out of stock - and other 
>> retailers also sell them in colors and I believe leather as well. They're 
>> tricky to install. I've only applied the clear versions. Proceed slowly 
>> lest you trap air bubbles between the stay and the protector. Clean the 
>> chain stay thoroughly; a pin is somewhat helpful to remove any bubbles; 
>> ideally, avoid them if you can. 
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL  
>>
>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 4:13:36 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> 3M is what I would do, I believe that's the product Joe Bell wrapped on 
>>> my chainstay. I can't verify that this is a real problem but I always get 
>>> queazy when I see steel and paint covered under all that cloth and twine, I 
>>> don't know what's happening under there. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 12:35:00 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:
>>>
>>>> 3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime. 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see 
>>>>> lots of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like 
>>>>> it 
>>>>> wold not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?
>>>>
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