The earlier version of the Alivio 4000 was rated for 36 and it worked quite
well.  I still have it lying around the garage somewhere.  It just doesn't
fit my shiny silver aesthetic.

On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 6:55 PM TP H <hinton.ty...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Scott, the capacity math works out but it looks like the specs for that
> rear derailer list a max sprocket of 34t (
> https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/alivio-t4000/RD-T4000.html).
> It may still work outright (specs are conservative) but, if not, one of the
> links/tabs (e.g., WolfTooth road or goat link) to drop the derailer down
> will likely make it all work out.
>
> On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 11:02:14 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> Was hoping for some advice... on my Sam, I'm interested in the Jim 7s
>> 13-42, with a 40 x 24 upfront, and Silver shifters in friction. The big
>> question I have is rear derailer choice, would the Shimano Alivio T4000
>> make sense? it's rated as a 9-speed with a total capacity of 45T.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
>>
>> On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 1:03:09 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Nerding-out on gearing:
>>>
>>> The % changes on the S-ride 13-34 are 14%, 18%, 15%, 13%, 15%, 19%.
>>> maximum delta % in lower 6 is 5% (13% to 18%)
>>>
>>> The % changes on the Shimano 13-34 are 14%, 13%, 16%, 18%, 19%, 16%.
>>> maximum delta % in lower 6 is 6% (13% to 19%)
>>>
>>> I thing the S ride is better, but this is much ado about nothing.
>>> I personally think the biggest jump should always be on the biggest
>>> (lowest) gear as is the case with the Riv S-ride. I don't need two bailout
>>> gears.
>>>
>>> I still ride freewheels on some bikes - My Rivendell sourced Shimano 7
>>> speed freewheel on my 1x Riv commuter is 14-16-18-20-22-24-34 for 13%, 12%,
>>> 11%, 10%, 9%, 34%. -maximum delta % in lower 6 is 4% (9% to 13%) I think
>>> this about ideal, could have maybe substituted a 25 for the 24, but again -
>>> much ado about nothing.
>>>
>>> My NOS Suntour Winner 7 is 12-14-16-18-21-24-30 for 15%, 13%, 12%, 15%,
>>> 13%, 22%. maximum delta % in lower 6 is 3% (12% to 15%), It is going on my
>>> Bombadil with a triple crank.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 9:17:20 AM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with Garth about the poor gear progressions on the 13-34 Jim.
>>>>  The Shimano HG-50-K 13-134 is
>>>> 13-15-17-20-24-29-34
>>>> which IMHO is much better, it avoids the 15-18 problem and has
>>>> 2-3-4-5-5 spacing above 15 vs the Jim's  3-3-3-4-6 spacing.   I used the
>>>> HG-50-K on my 88 Voyageur and gives very good spacing.   IRD also sold the
>>>> same copy of a HG-50-K for about $30 2 years ago.  I do not see it in the
>>>> IRD store now.  Maybe they changed suppliers.
>>>>
>>>> The 13-42 is also poor do to the 13-16 jump leaving NO 2 step drop for
>>>> the high gears.  My 1975 Shimano 14-32 5 speed had a 14-17 jump and was
>>>> always frustrating on level terrain finding a good high cog.  The 13-15
>>>> solves that.
>>>>
>>>> In all, why does anyone want to go from 9 speed to 7 speed???   I can
>>>> see them saying here is a supply of 7 speed for folks with 126 OLD rears,
>>>> but if you have a 130 OLD rear just use the 9 speeds out there.  They have
>>>> better progression.
>>>>
>>>> I think RBW is pitching folks a lemon with these as saying convert from
>>>> 9 to 7 speeds.
>>>>
>>>> John Hawrylak
>>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:30:36 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had some bit of hope that these would use an consistent gear
>>>>> progression of 15-17-20-24 on the 13-34, but no ..... S-Works does the
>>>>> overly big 15-18 jump along with the 18-21-24 which is unnecessarily 
>>>>> close.
>>>>> I often wonder of anyone who designs these actually rides it. IRD does 
>>>>> some
>>>>> weird cog progression with some of their offerings as well.
>>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 5:00:50 PM UTC-4 hinton...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In 2022, pretty cool to see 7-speed cassettes sell out in less than
>>>>>> 12 hours. But, if you missed out, this is a PSA that Soma has them in 
>>>>>> stock
>>>>>> still, though they don’t include the spacers like Riv did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 13-34:
>>>>>> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/590906-s-ride-cassette-7sp-13-34t-cs-m200-6765?category=735
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 13-42:
>>>>>> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/590907-s-ride-cassette-7sp-13-42t-cs-e500-6766?category=735
>>>>>>
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