Please be very cautious when choosing to engage with drivers.  Only they
know what lurks in their minds at that moment.

Curtis
Yielding to a 3000 pound mass of steel is a wise decision.

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022, 2:59 PM Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I moved this year and there's a 55mph 4-lane highway I use a lot, I don't
> love the speeds as the cars fly by but the emergency lane is wide and I
> don't worry about it too much. What PISSES ME OFF are the honkers who do it
> just to startle me cuz I guess it's hilarious.  Not a fan.
>
> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:51:24 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>
>> I had an incident last year thar still affects me. I was rolling along in
>> the shoulder, enjoying the day en route the donut shop turnaround point (30
>> miles out, 30 back) when a pick up driver tried sideswiping me. He had to
>> aim for me, this was intentional. My reactions meant I swerved clear,
>> almost hard enough to take myself off. Luckily my tires held.
>>
>> I had no interaction with driver prior to this. It was a driver who just
>> wanted to punish a cyclist.
>>
>> I still feel stress following this incident and no longer ride that route
>> at all. It's just not fun anymore.
>>
>> I do live in oil country and among really good people, there are some
>> very entitled and angry people who will bully and intimidate.
>>
>> Dealing with this stuff is difficult, but I would say this forum.is
>> probably not the place for it.
>>
>> IanA Alberta Canada
>>
>> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:40:27 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I got "the honk" a couple weeks ago. I was on a residential street that
>>> narrows down from 35mph posted limit to 25 as it comes around a tight curve
>>> and shoots downhill. At the crest I took the lane with the knowledge that
>>> shortly I would be rolling at near 25 and a big black lifted pickup came
>>> off a side street at the same time. HONK! It was stupid and I briefly
>>> considered getting aggressive with cowboy, but I just as quickly deduced
>>> that getting run over or shot was probably not a good plan. I moved over
>>> and let Jethro through. My advice is always move over and let Jethro
>>> through, you're not going to win that incredibly stupid battle.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 9:41:46 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> *First of all I'd like to note that starting this thread might not be a
>>>> great idea. But perhaps it would be a way for us to share some experiences,
>>>> vent or commiserate. *
>>>>
>>>> Well, I think a lot of us have been there. We've had a weird, scary,
>>>> too-close-for-comfort interaction with a motorist. It could be due to
>>>> driver inattention or downright overt aggression. It could have been your
>>>> fault or no fault of your own. Do you have a riding story involving a
>>>> motorist you'd like to share?
>>>>
>>>> I live in Fredericksburg, VA, a small city built on a grid. We have an
>>>> historic district here, many streets are narrow with one-way traffic. There
>>>> are a few two-lane arteries designed to move cars. Posted speeds are 25 mph
>>>> (I always drive slower and leave my truck in 2nd gear). People drive like
>>>> maniacs on certain residential streets, sometimes reaching 50mph. I often
>>>> wish for more traffic calming infrastructure, crosswalks, speed tables and
>>>> the like.
>>>>
>>>> In March 2021 I was riding my bike to the bike shop, about a 1.5 mile
>>>> trip. I was heading down a one-way street through a residential
>>>> neighborhood with street parking on the right and long, grassy, landscaped
>>>> park on the left. I was riding to the right side of the street. This
>>>> section of road has one lane and it is unusually wide. There is room for
>>>> someone to comfortably pass a cyclist.
>>>>
>>>> Someone honked their horn at me but not in the "Hi, heads up, I'm about
>>>> to pass you please and thanks" sort of way but the "Get the fork off the
>>>> road!" kind of way. It was startling. I responded by taking the lane, which
>>>> is legal for cyclists in Virginia. I rode dead center in the middle of the
>>>> lane. I hoisted a one-finger salute and carried on riding. I rode in the
>>>> middle of the lane for approximately 100 feet before making a turn.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this was an escalation. And it was a bad decision. I don't think
>>>> I'm alone in feeling frustrated by displays of impatience and aggression
>>>> from drivers and feel that I have certain rights as a human person to ride
>>>> safely. It is sometimes difficult not to react in the moment. Motorists
>>>> might be not only impatient but totally deranged. Road rage is real. And
>>>> drivers are behind the wheel of a vehicle that is easily weaponized. With
>>>> just a feather of the gas pedal or a slight turn of the wheel they can
>>>> inflict irrevocable damage to a cyclist.
>>>>
>>>> The driver responded to my salute by getting within a few feet of my
>>>> back wheel. When I  made a turn to carry on to the bike shop, they
>>>> followed. I could hear them revving their engine behind me and feathering
>>>> the gas to get close to my back wheel but not quite hit me. I continued to
>>>> ride in the middle of the road.
>>>>
>>>> I heard something hit the street next to me. It was an unopened
>>>> aluminum can of a carbonated beverage (I didn't go back to check out
>>>> whether it was soda, beer or seltzer). Acknowledging the projectile I
>>>> decided I had to bail and get up on the sidewalk or somehow turn around to
>>>> where the car could not get to me.
>>>>
>>>> As soon as I moved to the side to take a driveway apron up onto the
>>>> sidewalk the car passed me, then got right in front of me and slammed on
>>>> their brakes. I braked hard and managed not to do an endo onto their trunk
>>>> or hit their vehicle. The straddle cable hanger came loose from the front
>>>> brake cable. The driver sped off. I did not get their plates.
>>>>
>>>> A few days later I went around the neighborhood and knocked on every
>>>> door with a doorbell camera that was along the path of my interaction with
>>>> the driver. Everyone I asked checked their footage but only one came back
>>>> with anything showing me or the driver. There was a clip of the driver
>>>> revving their engine behind me and throwing the can. You can see the can
>>>> fly through the air and hear it land in the street. I got a good profile
>>>> shot of the car (2005 Acura TL, maroon with custom window trim), but no
>>>> view of the tags.
>>>>
>>>> This is, by far, the worst interaction I've had with a motorist. I've
>>>> only been riding for a few years. There are others that aren't nearly as
>>>> bad but still register as scary and unnecessary. They most often occur when
>>>> a vehicle is passing. I find that a lot if not *all* of the hairy
>>>> situations I've experienced with motorists would not have occurred if the
>>>> drivers had demonstrated just 5 to 10* seconds *of patience.
>>>>
>>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-10-09 at 12.37.28 PM.png]
>>>>
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